Mistress

[marc5]

Bro OL, thanks for the night indeed. It exceeded my expectation. I enjoyed it very much. I'll have to reciprocate three bottles now...

She's one chio singer among the large team, especially after she changed to an all white blouse + jeans outfit after the show. Under pressure now to support her 做秀 as she made a personal request for support. I've been to this situation before and need to be cautious unless there is a clear goal for me. But will let you know

The pic looks familiar...do I know her?

[marc5]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro sing,


Too bad that I couldn't join u n Marc5 for the outing on Fri. Did u pick up some chio chicks?

We could go to DC n TAM this coming wk. I want to deepen my rapport w/ some gals there.

Cheers!

Bro warbird, too bad you couldn't make it. We had a good time. Let's arrange one with bro OL.

Have fun to your dinner date today

[OrdinaryM]

Bro,

have being read your threads here. it is very interested and informative. thank you!

[ansonsohna]

As 'advised' by bro Jus & bro warbird here, decide to be fair to my new 'conquest' & not see her anymore. don't want to lead her on as i don't think she is my type. don't want later con't on even more jia lat.

b4 i 'dump' her however, i very the nervous & kan cheong & scared of her reaction .... (this is aso the first time in my life i dump a gal instead of vice versa). heng she never wayand or even cry, just say okay like tat ....

tks for all contribution & discussing implement mistress strategy. To me singer, ktv or normal gal not important. the 钱 $$$ part is. & will therefore follow bro jus strategy of budget.

since my 'new' attitude, i suddenly more smooth when interaction w WL. definitely more better in my cheong career.

& so just for fun try to made 'an offer to BY' to see how it goes. my experiment is to see how a normal looking (in fact a lil on the 丑 side) 30 plus guy with limited income can do BY or not. since i not in the cheong scene for qte some time, sms a bro for sum reco. ask him to reco 'simple' gal as practice run.

my bro intro me EE who sumtime work in bs ktv. according to my bro, EE aso last time got singapore bf but break up liao. she is milf but bod dam hot. in case i buaya oreidy but later cannot tahan, i was told tat EE can do ST.

anyway i call EE & arrange for a meet up at GL. we makan at one of the kopi tiam there. i start by arran for ST & then from ST i hope to make my indecent proposal.

i offer her only $400 per mth for going w me four times a month after work. can have sex during this outing session. actually it is just like paying in advance for bonk but the 'go out'/ Pat-Tor part is complimentary.

anyway, EE told me tat sum customer pay her just to go out without any sex at all. this story by EE is true. my bro confirm tat a 猪脑 fren of his actually do tat. (anyway, i cannot luff at him, last time aso like tat, i pay a WL from massage parlour to go out w me restuarant & i later have to give tip to her sum more .... tks to bro jus, no more tis kind of exploitation of me anymore!)

EE at first say not interested as $$ too little. so i psycho her to accept my offer. i sell koyok not bad: i say tat in case her biz slow at least got my offer as regular supplementary income. i aso say since my time very flexible, sure got at least four times in a month we can meet one (esp on days when she have not many 台 & no ST). guess wat, EE finally accepted my offer.

okay, tis may not look like much when u compare bro DYBJ, Warbird, Bro Sing, bro marc 5 or bro jus situation, but as like wat bro jus say, in my context, it is the best.

more importantly, it is my first time tat i offer sumting like tat. sort of like my practice negotiation session for the future when i can afford to keep a proper mistress. i know the Term & Condition nothing to rave about...... but i at least now hv got a lil bit experience to negotiate liao instead of simply pay $, shoot & leave like i always do last time ..... one small step for bro anson

EE is qte superior in sex aso. her on top of me & when she swing & rotate her hips, dam steam, less than 5 mins i liao & after my offer, got additional complimentary one more shot + BJ some more..... er, bro jus, got sex masterstroke or not?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by sing11235813

I understand that most (all?) would probably like to be under a BY. But, for one that is currently not under BY, would my offer of say a one-time arrangement of 6-8K for 1 week, or 10-12K for 2 weeks be an interesting proposition for them? (Bro DYBJ's expert opinion, please). I'm perfectly fine with them working throughout those week(s), and only bonking them during off hours. Or, paying $800 a few times during the arrangement shouldn't be a problem either.

Never be too generous to throw money especially at a HFJ or any nite spot, though in our context, we may want to portray that we're well off, but to them and those working wif them, you only show that you're a BIG CARROT HEAD and nothing more.
This is a double edged sword approach, if you wanna do this, then spread your wealth on the stage but focusing more on the one u aim.
In this way, soon, instead of most budgeted players, who can only afford to aim at 1, you would have cast a net instead of putting a fishing line into the sea, MY STYLE!

Why give 6-12k a week when you can buy over the entire meat for a whole month for that price? That would be my stance, spending money, even if its not a prob for you, shouldnt be like throwing $$$$ into the sea, dun u agree????

If an agreeable amount has been closed, then go to that HFJ & start bombing her with the said amount not nightly but about twice a week.
That way, you closed all doors for competition also leaving her no other choice but to look towards you for survival!

Remember, the trick is to offer monthly amount, then hang weekly with the last batch of $$$ for the week to be hung on the last day of the week. Anytime the deal turns sour or is off, you can use the $$$$ still in your pocket to buy new meat.
The idea is not how much you can spend, its how much you spent to get your mean & once you get it, how much ROI did u get from your investment!!!!!

Have fun dude

[Oceanlee]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Never be too generous to throw money especially at a HFJ or any nite spot.

If an agreeable amount has been closed, then go to that HFJ & start bombing her with the said amount not nightly but about twice a week.
That way, you closed all doors for competition also leaving her no other choice but to look towards you for survival!

Remember, the trick is to offer monthly amount, then hang weekly with the last batch of $$$ for the week to be hung on the last day of the week. Anytime the deal turns sour or is off, you can use the $$$$ still in your pocket to buy new meat.
The idea is not how much you can spend, its how much you spent to get your mean & once you get it, how much ROI did u get from your investment!!!!!

Have fun dude

The Guru have once again enlighten us.

Another way is to Bao-Wei 包位. Thus you can also enjoy for Honey-Moon.
Rather than run here and there, also save the drinks $$$ to have candle-light meals and go sight-seeing. Two person 花前月下。

This way I am sure the ROI will be fully rewarded with CD some more.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by Oceanlee

The Guru have once again enlighten us.

Bro OceanLee, tks for your compliments but pls, what guru? Me newbie noob only la

[Oceanlee]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro OceanLee, tks for your compliments but pls, what guru? Me newbie noob only la

alright, goot sharing from "NEWBIE", so our bro justime and warbird is the Guru and I am just a novice.

Originally Posted by marc5

Bro OL, thanks for the night indeed. It exceeded my expectation. I enjoyed it very much. I'll have to reciprocate three bottles now...

The pic looks familiar...do I know her?

She is the singer sit with me that night with your NEW Found .....

Originally Posted by warbird

bro Oceanlee,

Too bad that I couldn't join u n Marc5 for the outing on Fri. Did u pick up some chio chicks?

We could go to DC n TAM this coming wk. I want to deepen my rapport w/ some gals there.

Once again, thx for the invite. If SH is alright then we try to fix 1 to your playground. As for coming week, await bro Marc5 decision .... to visit his NEW FOUND MMs

Originally Posted by marc5

She's one chio singer among the large team, especially after she changed to an all white blouse + jeans outfit after the show. Under pressure now to support her 做秀 as she made a personal request for support. I've been to this situation before and need to be cautious unless there is a clear goal for me. But will let you know

If you raise your eyebrowns ..... let me know, dun need a report cards.
IMHO, she is at least 7.3/10 in terms of looks, nice figure and 1 that really can sings well.

Be happy n Merry
OL

[Rolec]

Originally Posted by ansonsohna

As 'advised' by bro Jus & bro warbird here, decide to be fair to my new 'conquest' & not see her anymore. don't want to lead her on as i don't think she is my type. don't want later con't on even more jia lat.

b4 i 'dump' her however, i very the nervous & kan cheong & scared of her reaction .... (this is aso the first time in my life i dump a gal instead of vice versa). heng she never wayand or even cry, just say okay like tat ....

tks for all contribution & discussing implement mistress strategy. To me singer, ktv or normal gal not important. the 钱 $$$ part is. & will therefore follow bro jus strategy of budget.

since my 'new' attitude, i suddenly more smooth when interaction w WL. definitely more better in my cheong career.

& so just for fun try to made 'an offer to BY' to see how it goes. my experiment is to see how a normal looking (in fact a lil on the 丑 side) 30 plus guy with limited income can do BY or not. since i not in the cheong scene for qte some time, sms a bro for sum reco. ask him to reco 'simple' gal as practice run.

my bro intro me EE who sumtime work in bs ktv. according to my bro, EE aso last time got singapore bf but break up liao. she is milf but bod dam hot. in case i buaya oreidy but later cannot tahan, i was told tat EE can do ST.

anyway i call EE & arrange for a meet up at GL. we makan at one of the kopi tiam there. i start by arran for ST & then from ST i hope to make my indecent proposal.

i offer her only $400 per mth for going w me four times a month after work. can have sex during this outing session. actually it is just like paying in advance for bonk but the 'go out'/ Pat-Tor part is complimentary.

anyway, EE told me tat sum customer pay her just to go out without any sex at all. this story by EE is true. my bro confirm tat a 猪脑 fren of his actually do tat. (anyway, i cannot luff at him, last time aso like tat, i pay a WL from massage parlour to go out w me restuarant & i later have to give tip to her sum more .... tks to bro jus, no more tis kind of exploitation of me anymore!)

EE at first say not interested as $$ too little. so i psycho her to accept my offer. i sell koyok not bad: i say tat in case her biz slow at least got my offer as regular supplementary income. i aso say since my time very flexible, sure got at least four times in a month we can meet one (esp on days when she have not many 台 & no ST). guess wat, EE finally accepted my offer.

okay, tis may not look like much when u compare bro DYBJ, Warbird, Bro Sing, bro marc 5 or bro jus situation, but as like wat bro jus say, in my context, it is the best.

more importantly, it is my first time tat i offer sumting like tat. sort of like my practice negotiation session for the future when i can afford to keep a proper mistress. i know the Term & Condition nothing to rave about...... but i at least now hv got a lil bit experience to negotiate liao instead of simply pay $, shoot & leave like i always do last time ..... one small step for bro anson

EE is qte superior in sex aso. her on top of me & when she swing & rotate her hips, dam steam, less than 5 mins i liao & after my offer, got additional complimentary one more shot + BJ some more..... er, bro jus, got sex masterstroke or not?

Bro Justime, Bro Warbird, Bro DYBJ n Bro Anson
I was reading this read the whole of today and so captivated i couldnt stop! I have read Mystery Method (Mystery is the teacher of Neil Straus who wrote The Game) and IMHO this thread can give these international best-sellers a run for their money. Was so motivated that I register an account to pay kudos to you.

Bro Anson is an inspiring story. Im in similar boat as Bro Anson. I am trying to go on dates to find gf. 1 fantastic takeaway is to welcome rejections! n learn from them.

Cheers

[sing11235813]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Never be too generous to throw money especially at a HFJ or any nite spot, though in our context, we may want to portray that we're well off, but to them and those working wif them, you only show that you're a BIG CARROT HEAD and nothing more.
This is a double edged sword approach, if you wanna do this, then spread your wealth on the stage but focusing more on the one u aim.
In this way, soon, instead of most budgeted players, who can only afford to aim at 1, you would have cast a net instead of putting a fishing line into the sea, MY STYLE!

Why give 6-12k a week when you can buy over the entire meat for a whole month for that price? That would be my stance, spending money, even if its not a prob for you, shouldnt be like throwing $$$$ into the sea, dun u agree????

If an agreeable amount has been closed, then go to that HFJ & start bombing her with the said amount not nightly but about twice a week.
That way, you closed all doors for competition also leaving her no other choice but to look towards you for survival!

Remember, the trick is to offer monthly amount, then hang weekly with the last batch of $$$ for the week to be hung on the last day of the week. Anytime the deal turns sour or is off, you can use the $$$$ still in your pocket to buy new meat.
The idea is not how much you can spend, its how much you spent to get your mean & once you get it, how much ROI did u get from your investment!!!!!

First, many thanks to bro DYBJ for taking time to reply to my queries. I am very honoured and grateful.

If I'm not reading you wrongly, you're recommending that I do the following: Day 1: Go to the HFJ, and spread a couple of thousand around, but giving a little more to the intended target. Then when she talks to you, go straight to the take-it-or-leave-it offer?
Week 2/3/4: If the offer is accepted, payment is done through regular HJ, as opposed to direct cash changing hands??

I do have a couple of constraints/preferences/quirks, and perhaps my approach would need some tailoring.
(a) I don't really have time to go to ktv regularly. A couple of times per week is out. In fact a couple of times per month is pretty much the max that I can commit to (if it can all be done without visitation, even better!). So, it'll be a little difficult for me to drop in 10 times a month to feed her slowly. Besides, don't the house take a big cut of the flower price??
(b) I really am looking for just a 1 or 2 week transaction, and no more. Anything more than 2 weeks would be oh-so-less-exciting and you start worrying about how to check on her, etc, which would be far more trouble than I'm willing to put up with.

Hence, I'd really much prefer a commando-style raid: Go in, negotiate, close the deal, enjoy, dump. And, I was wondering if this can be executed in HFJ on the singers. My thought is to have a mummy on commission (say 1k per successful deal), and they will look out for singers that fit my specifications, in terms of looks and playability (whole range from normal coupling to kinky stuff). As and when there is one, they intro the singer to me for direct negotiation. I'll place my take it or leave it 1 or 2 week offer, and if it's a go, then we do it and bonk like rabbits for the 1 or 2 weeks. If not, then NEXT. This still sound like crap to you??

[warbird]

Originally Posted by marc5

Bro warbird, too bad you couldn't make it. We had a good time. Let's arrange one with bro OL.

Have fun to your dinner date today.

Hi bro marc5,

I had a very good time but may hv lessened my rapport w/ her. I hv detailed my bungled encounter in my thread.

Good day!!

Originally Posted by ansonsohna

As 'advised' by bro Jus & bro warbird here, decide to be fair to my new 'conquest' & not see her anymore. don't want to lead her on as i don't think she is my type. don't want later con't on even more jia lat.

b4 i 'dump' her however, i very the nervous & kan cheong & scared of her reaction .... (this is aso the first time in my life i dump a gal instead of vice versa). heng she never wayand or even cry, just say okay like tat ....
..................................
since my 'new' attitude, i suddenly more smooth when interaction w WL. definitely more better in my cheong career.
.................................................. .......................
okay, tis may not look like much when u compare bro DYBJ, Warbird, Bro Sing, bro marc 5 or bro jus situation, but as like wat bro jus say, in my context, it is the best.

Hi bro,

Congrats to ur new found confidence!!

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Never be too generous to throw money especially at a HFJ or any nite spot, though in our context, we may want to portray that we're well off, but to them and those working wif them, you only show that you're a BIG CARROT HEAD and nothing more.
......................................
Why give 6-12k a week when you can buy over the entire meat for a whole month for that price? That would be my stance, spending money, even if its not a prob for you, shouldnt be like throwing $$$$ into the sea, dun u agree????

If an agreeable amount has been closed, then go to that HFJ & start bombing her with the said amount not nightly but about twice a week.
That way, you closed all doors for competition also leaving her no other choice but to look towards you for survival!

Remember, the trick is to offer monthly amount, then hang weekly with the last batch of $$$ for the week to be hung on the last day of the week. Anytime the deal turns sour or is off, you can use the $$$$ still in your pocket to buy new meat.
The idea is not how much you can spend, its how much you spent to get your mean & once you get it, how much ROI did u get from your investment!!!!!

Hi bro DYBJ,

Your advice is always worth reading again n again...

Originally Posted by Oceanlee

The Guru have once again enlighten us.

Another way is to Bao-Wei 包位. Thus you can also enjoy for Honey-Moon.
Rather than run here and there, also save the drinks $$$ to have candle-light meals and go sight-seeing. Two person 花前月下。

This way I am sure the ROI will be fully rewarded with CD some more.

Hi bro OL,

I like to thank u for the correct term 包位. Previously, I always use the term 买场。

Cheers！

Originally Posted by Oceanlee

alright, goot sharing from "NEWBIE", so our bro justime and warbird is the Guru and I am just a novice.

If you raise your eyebrowns ..... let me know, dun need a report cards.
IMHO, she is at least 7.3/10 in terms of looks, nice figure and 1 that really can sings well.

Be happy n Merry
OL

Hi bro OL,

I'm just a newbie as my "botched" dinner w/ the 2 SH gals last nite has revealed. I actually never set foot in a KTV until Sep last yr.

Originally Posted by Rolec

Bro Justime, Bro Warbird, Bro DYBJ n Bro Anson
I was reading this read the whole of today and so captivated i couldnt stop! I have read Mystery Method (Mystery is the teacher of Neil Straus who wrote The Game) and IMHO this thread can give these international best-sellers a run for their money. Was so motivated that I register an account to pay kudos to you.

Bro Anson is an inspiring story. Im in similar boat as Bro Anson. I am trying to go on dates to find gf. 1 fantastic takeaway is to welcome rejections! n learn from them.

Hi bro Rolec,

Although I'm a newbie, I hv read many books n e-books on man-woman RS, seduction, sexual techniques, etc. IMHO, David Dieda n Carlos Xuma r among the best.

Cheers!!

[Oceanlee]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro OL,

I like to thank u for the correct term 包位. Previously, I always use the term 买场。

Cheers!!

Let me put it as below ;

买场 = You actually paid her for that night. (or that few hrs) aka 买钟
which is about $200p/hr exlucde "misc fees".

包位 = You actually paid for her the whole month no need to go works. Its like you settle with the MGMT and 买位 as such, she actually do her duty to the company and she will spend the Honey-Moon with you.

Therefore you can get your ROI with CD and XD all in 1 (24hrs/7day)
Just my 02 cents understand.

[warbird]

Originally Posted by Oceanlee

Let me put it as below ;

买场 = You actually paid her for that night. (or that few hrs) aka 买钟
which is about $200p/hr exlucde "misc fees".

包位 = You actually paid for her the whole month no need to go works. Its like you settle with the MGMT and 买位 as such, she actually do her duty to the company and she will spend the Honey-Moon with you.

Therefore you can get your ROI with CD and XD all in 1 (24hrs/7day)
Just my 02 cents understand.

Hi bro OL,

Thx so much for ur clarification. You do hv a lot more experience than I.

I guess 包位 will apply only to singers n others w/ work contract? How much would that be for smaller HFJs n how much for high end joints such as DC?

Good day!!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro sing11235813, please see my reply to u in red.
First, many thanks to bro DYBJ for taking time to reply to my queries. I am very honoured and grateful.
I'm flattered but its not necessary, just sharing, that's what this forum is all about.

If I'm not reading you wrongly, you're recommending that I do the following: Day 1: Go to the HFJ, and spread a couple of thousand around, but giving a little more to the intended target. Then when she talks to you, go straight to the take-it-or-leave-it offer?
Week 2/3/4: If the offer is accepted, payment is done through regular HJ, as opposed to direct cash changing hands??
Yes but after reading your this post, it's not applicable for you anymore.

I do have a couple of constraints/preferences/quirks, and perhaps my approach would need some tailoring.
(a) I don't really have time to go to ktv regularly. A couple of times per week is out. In fact a couple of times per month is pretty much the max that I can commit to (if it can all be done without visitation, even better!). So, it'll be a little difficult for me to drop in 10 times a month to feed her slowly. Besides, don't the house take a big cut of the flower price??
(b) I really am looking for just a 1 or 2 week transaction, and no more. Anything more than 2 weeks would be oh-so-less-exciting and you start worrying about how to check on her, etc, which would be far more trouble than I'm willing to put up with.

Hence, I'd really much prefer a commando-style raid: Go in, negotiate, close the deal, enjoy, dump. And, I was wondering if this can be executed in HFJ on the singers. My thought is to have a mummy on commission (say 1k per successful deal), and they will look out for singers that fit my specifications, in terms of looks and playability (whole range from normal coupling to kinky stuff). As and when there is one, they intro the singer to me for direct negotiation. I'll place my take it or leave it 1 or 2 week offer, and if it's a go, then we do it and bonk like rabbits for the 1 or 2 weeks. If not, then NEXT. This still sound like crap to you??

Again, before i cont, i'll start from the end of your post.
As far as the amount you're willing to spend is concerned, you might as well use it for a month.
During which u already knew the transaction will not even surpass a months period.
So, y not keep a standby pussy incase your new toy bleeds for that period???? Maximise your investments bro......

Ok, for the rest of your prob, since time is a very tight factor for you, then my suggestion to you is, go to that joint, nego wif her, then once price to BY is confirmed, get to meet someone from the mgt.
Explain wif a friend of yours and the singer concerned as witness, then pass upfront 50% of the BY amount to that fella and also, ask for a direct ctc from that HFJ, cos, since you've upfront the $$$$, you should be able to hang without even being there. Hence, give a generous tip to that person involved cos he/she doesnt earn anything from this transaction...so steady a bit la.

Why 50%?????
If you only plan to shack the singer for 2weeks before you get sick of her meat, then you already got what you paid for.
Be cautious if they ask you for 1month upfront, prepay short term i.e 2 weeks is still fair, pay 1 month dangerous very prone to many hiccups and unforeseen probs...AKA BS!
Also, make sure your start date is just after her period, else you may just waste 1 week of your investment! hahaha

As for the house taking the flower cut, you shud not bother about that, the whole idea is to eliminate all competition and leave a trail that allow others to know that she's been BY by someone so as to prevent unwanted competition and total reliance on your financial support, this is key to total control of a singer.
During this period, sms your contact to hang flowers on your behalf about every 2 days between 500 to 1k, so as to show that she has got a supporter that others will have to reckon due to size of flowers.
Remember, many folks who go to HFJs hang small 100s to 500s and once a major contender comes into play, they'll think twice before hanging anything, thus the reason for this plot.

So, wif this plan, u can shack her as and when time permits u to, and also, allow u a back door at the end of 2 weeks.
As to why i dun advise anyone to be to generous is this:
If there're 2 shops that sells BMWs opposite each other along a road, one sells model A for 100k but the one across the street sells 150K for the same model, why pay 150K for the same model when you can save 50k and get the same thing?????? Makes sense?


If my post confuse u somewat, pls do ask for clarification for i apologise that i've not had a minute of sleep since yesterday cos i was tied up wif my latest BY, which only costs me only 6k a month

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by Oceanlee

Let me put it as below ;

买场 = You actually paid her for that night. (or that few hrs) aka 买钟
which is about $200p/hr exlucde "misc fees".

包位 = You actually paid for her the whole month no need to go works. Its like you settle with the MGMT and 买位 as such, she actually do her duty to the company and she will spend the Honey-Moon with you.

Therefore you can get your ROI with CD and XD all in 1 (24hrs/7day)
Just my 02 cents understand.

Bro OL, yes, i've personally encountered this arrangment before but no offense, i personally will not do it.
If i do this to a singer at DC, which to buy 1 whole day is 1k, it'll cost me 31k the month, plus this arrangement does not enter flower tally but will be 50/50 split wif company, so not really worth it. Not only that, how many can actually spend 24/7 an entire month on this honeymoon?????