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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

Well done bro Slider....day 2 soon will be day 14 hahahaha
Remember, no matter how tempted u r, shud u receive her SMS, dun reply.
If she comes back, which i'll bang my last buck she will, n calls you, then meet her if you wanna kill your demon, if not just ignore it & treat it as a prank call.
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

The point is TS started this thread to boast about being able to get a WL to fall in love with him. This thread is not some agony aunt post to seek advice or dispense advice to the heartbroken. Its a show off thread with no utter meaning. My intent as always is that commercial sex should be treated as what it is. So he claims he loves the WL but he's never going to marry her. That's love? He just set out to show people it can be done. So what? Hooker Romeo? This sort of action shouldn't be encouraged.What he is doing is merely romanticizing stupidity and wasting his own time and the WL's time. That's what it is. Come on how many of us men are capable of staying cool when some stranger starts casting lingering glances at our WL girlfriends? What will be going on through our minds in such a scenario? Most of us will be thinking whether that guy fucked our WL girlfriend before. How many of us can live with this torment? If men are so good at sharing their mates there won't be this term: jealous homicide.

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Correct. You choose to reply to question his intent, I choose to reply to you to question your intent. Like you just wrote, that's the point of being in a forum.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:01 PM
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The point is TS started this thread to boast about being able to get a WL to fall in love with him. This thread is not some agony aunt post to seek advice or dispense advice to the heartbroken. Its a show off thread with no utter meaning. My intent as always is that commercial sex should be treated as what it is. So he claims he loves the WL but he's never going to marry her. That's love? He just set out to show people it can be done. So what? Hooker Romeo? This sort of action shouldn't be encouraged.What he is doing is merely romanticizing stupidity and wasting his own time and the WL's time. That's what it is. Come on how many of us men are capable of staying cool when some stranger starts casting lingering glances at our WL girlfriends? What will be going on through our minds in such a scenario? Most of us will be thinking whether that guy fucked our WL girlfriend before. How many of us can live with this torment? If men are so good at sharing their mates there won't be this term: jealous homicide.
U do have a point.
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because I could not feel any genuine affection from her.

I am now in the process of bailing out. Today is Day 2 of Operation Mount Cold Turkey.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:31 PM
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An update on my saga.

Exchanged a few smses with my girl and had a long conversation with her over the phone today. To cut the long story short, she questioned whether I really intended to meet her in Chongqing or whether I am just lying to her. I told her that I had in fact made reservations at the Chongqing Hilton, which was a fact, but cancelled my reservations today, which is also a fact. She can verify with the hotel if she wants to. Too bad I deleted the email with the booking confirmation number otherwise can simply give her the confirmation number and ask her to check with the hotel directly.

Moral of the story; better be prepared for everything and make sure that you have circumstantial evidence to corroborate your story. The problem most WLs face is that they do not plan their strategies well enough and if the bros are sufficiently clear minded, most of the WLs' stories cannot withstand careful scrutiny.

Regardless what they say, if you probe further, gather the answers they gave, take a step back and examine the answers objectively, the picture will ultimately become clearer.

Despite the phone call and smses, I am still not going over to Chongqing. Actually after talking to her, somehow I am more convinced that the decision not to see her in Chongqing is the right decision. Otherwise, when I see myself in the mirror next time, I will see a carrot head looking back at me.

Thankfully applying for a visa is quite a hassle to me otherwise the risk of my doing something stupid on impulse is much higher.

Posting your story in this forum is unlikely to be of much use to you as people here will never really know your situation.
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Posting your story in this forum is unlikely to be of much use to you as people here will never really know your situation.
You have a good point, on the other hand some kind bros have been kind enough to personally contact bro slider and offer him advise. I think the objective of posting the story is not purely to get advice, but also as a means of sharing emotions.

Personally, I treat this forum as a place where we can release our pent-up emotions and frustrations by penning down our thoughts...a bit like writing a diary.
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The point is TS started this thread to boast about being able to get a WL to fall in love with him. This thread is not some agony aunt post to seek advice or dispense advice to the heartbroken. Its a show off thread with no utter meaning. My intent as always is that commercial sex should be treated as what it is. So he claims he loves the WL but he's never going to marry her. That's love? He just set out to show people it can be done. So what? Hooker Romeo? This sort of action shouldn't be encouraged.What he is doing is merely romanticizing stupidity and wasting his own time and the WL's time. That's what it is. Come on how many of us men are capable of staying cool when some stranger starts casting lingering glances at our WL girlfriends? What will be going on through our minds in such a scenario? Most of us will be thinking whether that guy fucked our WL girlfriend before. How many of us can live with this torment? If men are so good at sharing their mates there won't be this term: jealous homicide.
Valid points. The transistion of a bro from the KC trap state to the process of awakening is always lined with many controversies and dilemma. Thats the problem with people in this stage, they never think probably. What they do seldom make sense.

Whatever the reasons for his postings, it reveals a lot in his mind at different stage of the relationship. Very useful as a reading material.

I guess its the outcome that is more important, as this thread spark many ideas and discussion that practically uses lovemachine's story as a case study. You do play a part in determining the outcome too, whether this thread benefits somebody whom you dun even know, or whether it benefits you in clarifying what really happens.

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Bro slider, we all keeping you company in Mt Alps, and let me know when I deliver a carlsberg to you OK?

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You have a good point, on the other hand some kind bros have been kind enough to personally contact bro slider and offer him advise. I think the objective of posting the story is not purely to get advice, but also as a means of sharing emotions.

Personally, I treat this forum as a place where we can release our pent-up emotions and frustrations by penning down our thoughts...a bit like writing a diary.

For me, it is a bit of both. It started off as a mean of venting my pent-up frustrations, like bro aces68 said, sort of like a diary. After that, I received numerous offers of help from other kind souls in this forum and even met up with a few of them. So for some of the bros here, they actually know more about about my story than what was written here. By posting my updates here and hearing their comments, I felt that it benefited me tremendously in expediting my recovery.


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Bro slider, we all keeping you company in Mt Alps, and let me know when I deliver a carlsberg to you OK?
Thanks bro, instead of a carlsberg, can deliver a chateau la tour instead?
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Bro Slider, greetings, i am back and the weather here as usual, SUCKS! hahahaha

Anyway, not just you, myself or several bros in here, have all walked this path sometime or rather in their life.
Yes, we will do out utmost to help, whether others in this forum believes it or not, it's fine wif me and i think i can speak for the rest as well. We r not here to any recognition but our very own little way of giving back...thus helping

Once you're thru this episode of your life, do come on board & help those who are in the same distress........i am sure you make a good counselor based on your battle scars.
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By posting my updates here and hearing their comments, I felt that it benefited me tremendously in expediting my recovery.
Same feeling. Now for my update.

Yesterday, I went to look for sifu, seeking his advice.

Sifu said that in my life there will be 3 women in my heart.

I replied i knew i already met 2.

The first relationship caused so much pain that i almost die, or rather i did died but is given another chance to live.

The second one is currently my wife. We are together after knowing each other for just 10 days.

Sifu said he cannot be sure whether my gal is the 3rd one unless she is present there. If she isn't, then i will definitely meet another one. But he mentioned that my relationship with my gal will not be a passing cloud, it will last some time. It may appears to be over but it is not. Sifu said i need to be able to control my emotion and draw the imaginery line. Actually i sense that sifu has seen more than what he told me, becoz things that he spoken off, are what i thought might happen, what i fear might happen.

And that's it. Now i am going to look for master Yoda to learn to control the force.
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Actually i sense that sifu has seen more than what he told me, becoz things that he spoken off, are what i thought might happen, what i fear might happen.
Must not listen to what he says at face value.....listen deep and you'll see the hidden message.
Bro XYZ, as you know the rules of his trade, he can see but cant reveal all.
As least now you know what's coming.......be ready for it.
Best, when she's back, bring her there for all to be revealed and also, the FINAL answers to solve your probs.
This is not about luv anymore, its about survival and maintaining your sanity.
Looks like u n me may be in the same boat...hahahaha
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Must not listen to what he says at face value.....listen deep and you'll see the hidden message.
Bro XYZ, as you know the rules of his trade, he can see but cant reveal all.
As least now you know what's coming.......be ready for it.
Best, when she's back, bring her there for all to be revealed and also, the FINAL answers to solve your probs.
This is not about luv anymore, its about survival and maintaining your sanity.
Looks like u n me may be in the same boat...hahahaha
Good luck
Bro i know what u mean. Sifu has already hinted at what might come. Our first meeting is really just introductory, I figure there are still some milestones that had not been met that will led us to the final point. But how to avoid these milestones, i have no idea. I probably will win the first battle but the war is long.

And yes, its about survival and maintaining my sanity
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The only meaningful post I find from TS is the one where he posted on the various Chai Taos that WLs have and the WLs' real life partners. If he had started with that post I would have applauded his efforts and added to his points gladly. I did not zap the TS as he had highlighted important aspects of how WLs leech money from Chai Taos. That should be the info that cheongsters should take away from this not the message of romantic love with a WL. I posted because there are too many supporting carebear posts masking the reality and intent of the thread.

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Valid points. The transistion of a bro from the KC trap state to the process of awakening is always lined with many controversies and dilemma. Thats the problem with people in this stage, they never think probably. What they do seldom make sense.

Whatever the reasons for his postings, it reveals a lot in his mind at different stage of the relationship. Very useful as a reading material.

I guess its the outcome that is more important, as this thread spark many ideas and discussion that practically uses lovemachine's story as a case study. You do play a part in determining the outcome too, whether this thread benefits somebody whom you dun even know, or whether it benefits you in clarifying what really happens.

cheers bro.
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The only meaningful post I find from TS is the one where he posted on the various Chai Taos that WLs have and the WLs' real life partners. If he had started with that post I would have applauded his efforts and added to his points gladly. I did not zap the TS as he had highlighted important aspects of how WLs leech money from Chai Taos. That should be the info that cheongsters should take away from this not the message of romantic love with a WL. I posted because there are too many supporting carebear posts masking the reality and intent of the thread.
Granted, when we first started out, a lot of bros here also have the doubts that you do. Many asked the same questions as well - why love and test, test and love, love and unlove, whole lot of turning corners. The way TS portrayed his relationship is that of self-centredness, in my opinion. But I believe the source of such attitude is also right here, the cautious step-by-step approach is typical of cheongster dabbing the murky waters of WL relationships. Its like when you're doing a job too well, you forget what the hell you're doing it in the first place.

That how I came in at a point and said that TS is not posting for fun sake, because I witnessed his sufferings. We got into contact months before this thread was started and I knew for a fact that the relationship was real and his emotion was also real. If he wrote it in a way that got himself represented as a self confident and self-centredness brag, I guess only I can say that the original intention, is to help people here understand his story. And I am continually doing this now.

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