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Ok usually when I want to do this I'll do the following (not conclusive or extensive)
In KTV setting
- Observe them, make sure they know you are observing.
- Lead the conversation, respond to their KC attempt with just smiles (keep quiet)
- When they attempt to KC, like say good things about you and stuff, just reply "you too"
- When they continue to KC, change topic and say how good they are (can be singer, can be model, I love this dress...etc)
- When they get physical, say you want to play finger game or dice game
- Do whatever you say, and immediately. like if they are cold, ask them if they like a warm glass of water, then ask the xiaomei to get it there and then.
- Keep commenting on how good they are, when they return favour (like a kiss or smile), accept it.
- Ask personal questions concerning their well-being, you know questions which bf or some relatives will ask. can be whether they have taken their meals (if not, get the menu for them), to wider topics like whether they are comfortable in sg, what they aspire to be...sort of stuff.
- Make sure you do not ignore your friends, your friends always come first, whether in just replying a question or giving toast.
- Do not do anything that make them feel that you are trying to attract their attention.
- Maintain a happy composure to see them leave your table.
- Say thank you when you give them their tips
Hard to list down the rest, must go into the situation then will react accordingly.
wah, bro colins, this is a good manual... Personally I never cheong KTV in Singapore before, so can't really comment, but your suggestions make good sense. My experience with PRC so far has only been limited to the contacts I get from SBF, probably cos my putonghua is lousy, so I don't think I can give a good conversation in KTV, also cannot sing Mandarin song..
Honestly i was also a victim once
many many donkey years when Sentosa complex(JB) was the in-thing for SG guys. Fell for a KTV gal, spent all of my savings on her, supporting her every other day. Passport literally chopped to the last page. In returned, one fine night I got a call from her (she was not at workplace), she couldn't make herself clear so she handed the phone to her boyfriend, and the guy ask me to stop disturbing her. No threats, just man to man talk.
My mind gone blank, took a "pah wan" taxi to Woodlands, pack some bottles of beers and hid myself at some dark carpark area sitting on the back of a Nissan pickup truck, cried the shit out of myself the whole night.
My heart was very painful, literally like the chinese says it "thousand arrow pierce the heart". Fortunately I didn't dare to die.
I have never step into Sentosa Complex ever since.
bro, i salute you for your full recovery and courage. I hope I would not have to go through what you experienced.
Honestly i was also a victim once
many many donkey years when Sentosa complex(JB) was the in-thing for SG guys. Fell for a KTV gal, spent all of my savings on her, supporting her every other day. Passport literally chopped to the last page. In returned, one fine night I got a call from her (she was not at workplace), she couldn't make herself clear so she handed the phone to her boyfriend, and the guy ask me to stop disturbing her. No threats, just man to man talk.
My mind gone blank, took a "pah wan" taxi to Woodlands, pack some bottles of beers and hid myself at some dark carpark area sitting on the back of a Nissan pickup truck, cried the shit out of myself the whole night.
My heart was very painful, literally like the chinese says it "thousand arrow pierce the heart". Fortunately I didn't dare to die.
I have never step into Sentosa Complex ever since.
l understand how u feel bro, abt the "thousand arrow pierce the heart" theory.
cos l experienced it before when l break up wif my love. It is like the whole heart totally shattered into pieces and sumtinz keep drilling into my heart, really painful. l too feel very upset after a few days fro the breakup. Remembered l was going out to buy sumtinz, l cried along the way too, and when l reached home, l jus break down on the floor.
l tink one will experience such great emotional pains if too deep in love wif the gal. l bet u love her very much.
In KTV setting
- Observe them, make sure they know you are observing.
- Lead the conversation, respond to their KC attempt with just smiles (keep quiet)
- When they attempt to KC, like say good things about you and stuff, just reply "you too"
- When they continue to KC, change topic and say how good they are (can be singer, can be model, I love this dress...etc)
- Make sure you do not ignore your friends, your friends always come first, whether in just replying a question or giving toast.
- Do not do anything that make them feel that you are trying to attract their attention.
- Maintain a happy composure to see them leave your table.
- Say thank you when you give them their tips
This is like the Cheong-sutra of kc-ing ktv girls. must take down all the points now. thanks bro.
bro, I also cannot sing mandarin song. I am Mandarin illiterate even though i am Chinese. But maybe a tad better cos can speak the language.
So, no need to bother to sing, ask KJ to play those 2 hrs long MTV concert if your buddies are equally "busy". As for yourself, you can either practice bro collins's secret manual or KC KC KC KC.... them and like what bro DYBJ describe it, "mind fucked" them.
At that times I already she had a married man bf in Sg whom she seen as her life partner. With me & another middle-age old men bonking her during her 2 months stay, she still to lied to married man bf, middle-age old man lover & me that she is truthful to us.
Before I ended my stints with this PRC whore, I found out that actually her married man bf did not spend much money on her except me & that middle-age man. Both of us spend $10,000 each on these whore. Her priority is that married man bf & she prefer to fuck by him.
bro, tks for sharing your story. How do you actually find out about the other guys? I can never tell if the FL has another guy or bf.
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So, my advise is, when you're with a WL & whatever she tells you, you may want to believe her but somehow something in your feels not rite...trust your instincts, its your defensive mechanism talking to you......trust it, it could save you a lot of heartache......
yes, it's quite true. recently my FL called me from China and said she want to put her father into old folks home but short of money, ask me whether can help or not. Then I said sorry, it's not possible at the moment.
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I've learnt one thing, dun be too eager to go for the kill, make them feel SAFE i.e you aint a buayak! then it'll get em thinking whether what they heard was a rumour due to jealously....to me, it's all about mind fucking bro.....
The more experienced, the more fun to kill......that's also the kind i like, brainy scheming ones.....
cool bro, but what do you do after they kena your KC ? I mean I am sure you not trying to cheat their money and stuff like that.
bro, i salute you for your full recovery and courage. I hope I would not have to go through what you experienced.
Thanks bro. now with bro collins's secret manual, you dun have to. hehehe
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Originally Posted by longwinter
l understand how u feel bro, abt the "thousand arrow pierce the heart" theory.
cos l experienced it before when l break up wif my love. It is like the whole heart totally shattered into pieces and sumtinz keep drilling into my heart, really painful. l too feel very upset after a few days fro the breakup. Remembered l was going out to buy sumtinz, l cried along the way too, and when l reached home, l jus break down on the floor.
l tink one will experience such great emotional pains if too deep in love wif the gal. l bet u love her very much.
Wah. Yours also sounds serious lei. Can share the story with us?
bro, I also cannot sing mandarin song. I am Mandarin illiterate even though i am Chinese. But maybe a tad better cos can speak the language.
So, no need to bother to sing, ask KJ to play those 2 hrs long MTV concert if your buddies are equally "busy". As for yourself, you can either practice bro collins's secret manual or KC KC KC KC.... them and like what bro DYBJ describe it, "mind fucked" them.
Sure confirm busy until no time to go toilet also
Seems your mandarin level also similar to me, I can speak but not so fluently To be honest, I am Chinese, but not local from SG..so never had any real buddies in SG, so that's also one of the reasons I dun step into KTV, all the time cheong alone in SBF..damn sian.
One of my burning question is how much does a KTV session actually cost ?
One of my burning question is how much does a KTV session actually cost ?
Those average standard one, around $120 inclusive jug of beer and room and some silly fruits and nuts.
High class one, I can't afford. So dun know
If you dun have any preferences and like a mix of options, maybe can try out Joo Chiat area. There got Viet gals pub and PRC small time KTV. Or Pudong KTV if you only like chinese dishes.
But be forewarned if you step into Viet pub. Thier KC trap is like Tai Chi art; slow and gentle, but extremely deadly.
It's actually quite easy to tell if the FL/WL is sincerely interested in you and not your wallet. That is...MONEY is never in the picture.
Ever heard of stories that those FL BFs, treat them like shit and use thier money? Yet they still kwai kwai stick with them. Why, love lor. If the gal really likes you, it means she enjoys your company and time etc. Money is never in her thoughts and she may even spend on you, like treating you to meals of gifts.
That is Y I always pay... keeps a barrier between the two of us. The last thing u want is for LOVE to come in when you cannot handle it for the long term
Love or the perception that one is in love is the root of all KC problems esp when both parties do not feel the same. (Whether or not you are really in love is not the issue..)
Dun forget, the challenge to BOTH parties is also HOW TO LET GO GENTLY.. lotsa issues and heartbreaks discussed here is owing to the "letting go wth a thud" approach that breaks the heart.
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Seems your mandarin level also similar to me, I can speak but not so fluently To be honest, I am Chinese, but not local from SG..so never had any real buddies in SG, so that's also one of the reasons I dun step into KTV, all the time cheong alone in SBF..damn sian.
One of my burning question is how much does a KTV session actually cost ?
Pls bros, this secret manual thing is small boy's toy compared to bros' vast experience here. Just that I buay paiseh type it out only.
Cost wise, depends on which ktv you go to. From happy hour somewhere (3-7pm, 4-9pm, etc) 100+SGD to 400+SGD, and unhappy hour (7-11pm, 11-3am, 9-3am) 160+SGD to thousands. Really depends on size of the crowd cos that determines the amount of alcohol you drink. You have tip the girls who sit with you, ranging from 30 (for those who come in to see you once and the next time is when the cows come home) to 500 (stay whole night with you, or a 'booking'), or to any exhorbitant amount depending on the place, the girl, or the cash in your wallet.
You can check out the health centre and ktv section under SBF for more information and practically the entire history of pricings for most of the popular local ktvs is there.
Those average standard one, around $120 inclusive jug of beer and room and some silly fruits and nuts.
High class one, I can't afford. So dun know ..
tks for the info, I am also low class one, cannot afford high class.
Is the $120 include the tips for girl ? If not, how much is the normal tips ? I am totally ignorant about the procedure in KTV.
I have read that in some KTV, you can raba-raba the girl all over, I have even read some guys even putting their hands into the girls crotch .. dunno if they finger them or not..is this normal ?
Is this kind of raba-raba part of the tips or do you have to pay extra ? Do we pay the tips directly to the girl or will it be included in the bill itself ?
Sorry for the questions bro, but i am real blur king when it comes to KTV. Other bros may laugh at my questions..
You can check out the health centre and ktv section under SBF for more information and practically the entire history of pricings for most of the popular local ktvs is there.
tks for tips, bro. yes, I will ask my questions on the other thread. Wouldn't want to hijack this thread and turn it into KTV question time.
But for the time being, I think KTV is not my game, cos it will look very silly if one single guy go to KTV by himself, right
tks for the info, I am also low class one, cannot afford high class.
Is the $120 include the tips for girl ? If not, how much is the normal tips ? I am totally ignorant about the procedure in KTV.
Other bros may laugh at my questions..
Tips? as what bro collins had roughly describe. Those stick with you one, can give more lor. The amount is depend on the classes of KTV.
E.g: if like i mentioned those small time KTV $120 ones, nice gal sit long long ones i give $60, $70 lor. Those always disappear ones $30, $20.
But pls dun use my figures as a die hard rule hor.
But i must stress this. I dun raba raba them. My buddy and I likes to talkcock and tease them. Pure fun and jokes.
Because of that a majority of the gals stay long with us. Some even without asking they automatically change to casual clothing at closing time and follow us. We brought them for supper and send them home.
I think they save on cab fare also.
19-08-2008, 08:58 AM
. Personally I never cheong KTV in Singapore before, so can't really comment, but your suggestions make good sense. My experience with PRC so far has only been limited to the contacts I get from SBF, probably cos my putonghua is lousy, so I don't think I can give a good conversation in KTV, also cannot sing Mandarin song..
that she is truthful to us.
