Tears For A PRC Prostitute

[aces68]

Originally Posted by aczeta76

..Dun forget, the challenge to BOTH parties is also HOW TO LET GO GENTLY.. lotsa issues and heartbreaks discussed here is owing to the "letting go wth a thud" approach that breaks the heart.

bro, good point. What would you say is the best way to let go gently in my case http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2985002-post169.html. I mean I am ready to let go, but at the same time I don't want to say hurtful things. Should avoiding contact be the best way ? She is now in China and sometimes we still communicate by Video Call on MSN. The other day, while doing Video Call, she introduced her father and sister to me on MSN. I think she kinda likes me but at the same time also trying to KC me..wah lau..damn confused leh..At the same time, she knows I have OC (but stuck in unhappy situation). I made that very clear from the beginning.

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by aces68

bro, tks for your long and insightful posting. In your case, what would you deem as sacrifice by the FL ?

Once, I knew an FL who liked me (my guess only, that time I still green in cheonging) that she suggested that she want to deleted her thread from SBF so that I won't feel hurtful when I read her thread..of course I knew her thru SBF. Is this sacrifice ?

it's still kinda on-going but now she back in China and i'm trying to think of a good plan to dump her gently so that we would remain friends and I still have chance to up her as FL

Dun... once cut, leave it. Dun linger on.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aces68

cool bro, but what do you do after they kena your KC ? I mean I am sure you not trying to cheat their money and stuff like that.

Bro, there's only 1 thing i can get from them.....kinda obvious rite hehehehe

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by aces68

At the same time, she knows I have OC (but stuck in unhappy situation). I made that very clear from the beginning.

Bro, forgive me if I sounded offensive. You need to end one relationship before moving into another one.

Piority must be given to your current marraige, more so if you have children. Have you both not sort out conselling?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aces68

bro, good point. What would you say is the best way to let go gently in my case http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2985002-post169.html. I mean I am ready to let go, but at the same time I don't want to say hurtful things. Should avoiding contact be the best way ? She is now in China and sometimes we still communicate by Video Call on MSN. The other day, while doing Video Call, she introduced her father and sister to me on MSN. I think she kinda likes me but at the same time also trying to KC me..wah lau..damn confused leh..At the same time, she knows I have OC (but stuck in unhappy situation). I made that very clear from the beginning.

Beware the videocall wif father n mother ploy. Very common tactic used by majority of PRCs to give u the impression that you're da one. Always remember, 99.99% of them as in family n friends are all in cahoots together.

As for wanting to know KC traps, like what bro heartbreakkid mentioned, those especially in the high end KTVs are profound in this KC game cos mostly the people who go there are pretty good fishes to catch....they are like the PHDs of KC, but to me, that's where the fun is hehehehehe

[aces68]

Originally Posted by ekemono

Bro, forgive me if I sounded offensive. You need to end one relationship before moving into another one.

Piority must be given to your current marraige, more so if you have children. Have you both not sort out conselling?

bro, I totally understand your concern and will not take any offence to your comment. Maybe you can get a better picture of my situation by reading my previous posts. Since it is all on SBF anyway, I don't mind to find out other bros opinions about what they would do if they are in my shoes.

http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/1671329-post176.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2828362-post294.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2804639-post39.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2967607-post6.html

The bottomline is if I had kids (which I would willingly give up some years of my life for), I would devote my time to them and I would put up with my wife even if she had low sex drive..I will still keep my SBF account but probably limit myself to discussion threads, no more KC with FL.
Personally, I think that my best solution is to divorce but at this moment, I don't know how to prepare for it, both pyschologically and financially..if bros have any comments, it will be deeply appreciated

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aces68

bro, I totally understand your concern and will not take any offence to your comment. Maybe you can get a better picture of my situation by reading my previous posts. Since it is all on SBF anyway, I don't mind to find out other bros opinions about what they would do if they are in my shoes.

http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/1671329-post176.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2828362-post294.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2804639-post39.html
http://sammyboyforum.org.nz/2967607-post6.html

The bottomline is if I had kids (which I would willingly give up some years of my life for), I would devote my time to them and I would put up with my wife even if she had low sex drive..I will still keep my SBF account but probably limit myself to discussion threads, no more KC with FL.
Personally, I think that my best solution is to divorce but at this moment, I don't know how to prepare for it, both pyschologically and financially..if bros have any comments, it will be deeply appreciated

Bro Aces, i reckon you're born in 68.
My heart goes out to you man but i dun wanna pour cold water on to you but i read those links u pasted, and somehow, my instincts tell me that it aint that simple anymore dude..........there's definitely something you're not aware of.......

[aces68]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro Aces, i reckon you're born in 68.
My heart goes out to you man but i dun wanna pour cold water on to you but i read those links u pasted, and somehow, my instincts tell me that it aint that simple anymore dude..........there's definitely something you're not aware of.......

I must praise you for your powers of deduction about my age.
but when you say there's definitely something you're not aware of, do you mean there's a third party OR do you mean something else ?

[xyz1001]

Originally Posted by aces68

The bottomline is if I had kids (which I would willingly give up some years of my life for), I would devote my time to them and I would put up with my wife even if she had low sex drive..I will still keep my SBF account but probably limit myself to discussion threads, no more KC with FL.
Personally, I think that my best solution is to divorce but at this moment, I don't know how to prepare for it, both pyschologically and financially..if bros have any comments, it will be deeply appreciated

Bro aces68,

Honestly speaking if 9 years of persuasion cannot get her to born u a kid, chances are quite low. But what is the real reason behind that? I dunno ur wife so u have to ask yourself

Physically, is that any health issue that u are not aware of?
Emotionally, is there someone else in her heart? u mentioned the guy she admired? Did things happened, did things change after u found out?
Or she just a career-minded woman who wanna spend more time pursue her career?

Bro understand u have high sex drive, but BJ and painting shouldn't be consider SOP for married couples. Frenching wise, i dunno. Always thought women love to kiss, with passion.

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by aces68

Personally, I think that my best solution is to divorce but at this moment, I don't know how to prepare for it, both pyschologically and financially..if bros have any comments, it will be deeply appreciated

bro, i read the posts you linked to me. It pains my heart to see you in this stage.

I hope it was just lack of opening up between you and wifey that causes this sadness, and not some 3rd party involved on her side.

Honestly, we as men, need to have sex. The other alternative is to go for paid sex. But during this period of a rocky marraige be very careful on your movement for fear that she may gather evidences of your "activities". That can amount to a good solid ground for divorce and you will be hit very hard by the Women's Charter.
I am a divorcee myself 10 yrs ago. My ex-wife is a PRC ang pai at some high-end KTV but we divorce on grounds of unreasonable behaviour. It was a bloody awful marraige lasting 6 years that literally brought me down to a "souless" "spiritless" timid person, or zombie. Fortunately good friends pulled me back to my church and our merciful God gave me a new "soul" and a "purpose" to carry on. He still grace me with His blessing everyday, and hopefully my current gf will be one of His blessing to me. I will pray on it. hehehe.

Opps. paiseh. got carried away on my religious story.

Anyway, Pls do encourage your wife to try out conselling if both still value the marraige. Even when you apply for divorce, the court will still interview both to try to mediate, suggesting and advicing conselling before the couples confirm thier decision to preceed with the divorce. So it points to that conselling should not be brush away in each other's tots.

No need to guess here guess there. You should privately seek a lawyer advice in the meantime. See where you stand.
Hunt around for one at Chinatown area, they are most likely willing to hear
you out without consultation fee. Avoid big time lawyers at Raffles area.

Pyschologically, you won't fly like a dragon after you finally get hold of the Nisi Decree. Rather, you will go blank also. Cos NOW, you are a single again. The changes are immediate but our adaptation is slow. So if you do a search at SBF there are thread asking "Life after divorce". And every bros starts pouring in thier encouragement and suggestive direction.

But i seriously hope both of you can pull thru.
Dun bother too much with the PRC gal, fix your own life first.

[aces68]

Originally Posted by xyz1001

Bro aces68,

Honestly speaking if 9 years of persuasion cannot get her to born u a kid, chances are quite low. But what is the real reason behind that? I dunno ur wife so u have to ask yourself

Physically, is that any health issue that u are not aware of?
Emotionally, is there someone else in her heart? u mentioned the guy she admired? Did things happened, did things change after u found out?
Or she just a career-minded woman who wanna spend more time pursue her career?

Bro understand u have high sex drive, but BJ and painting shouldn't be consider SOP for married couples. Frenching wise, i dunno. Always thought women love to kiss, with passion.

these are her exact words, "if you want a child, it's not coming from my womb/stomach"..I really dun understand, I always thought that if a woman loves a man, she would be most happy to bear him a child..i mean that would be the ultimate sacrifice. I know she feels that childbirth could be a traumatising experience, painful, and so on..but besides offering my support, I cannot do much to lessen those experience. She's also afraid her body will lose shape after giving birth and she's afraid of becoming fat during pregnancy..these things are beyond my ability to control except that I can offer mental and spiritual support.
As for BJ and painting, i can do without it and I agree that it's not SOP in a marriage (also having a child or being pregnant is also not SOP), but NO frenching ? c'mon ? how to get aroused ?

Originally Posted by ekemono

bro, i read the posts you linked to me. It pains my heart to see you in this stage.

I hope it was just lack of opening up between you and wifey that causes this sadness, and not some 3rd party involved on her side. At this stage, I also don't think it's a 3rd party. It's not to say that we don't communicate, our communication is quite OK, except that we don't agree on the subject of kids and family

Honestly, we as men, need to have sex. The other alternative is to go for paid sex. But during this period of a rocky marraige be very careful on your movement for fear that she may gather evidences of your "activities". That can amount to a good solid ground for divorce and you will be hit very hard by the Women's Charter. I know, so I am quite careful with my cheonging except with that PRC gal. Now I think I have to cancel the phone line which I got for her
I am a divorcee myself 10 yrs ago. My ex-wife is a PRC ang pai at some high-end KTV but we divorce on grounds of unreasonable behaviour. It was a bloody awful marraige lasting 6 years that literally brought me down to a "souless" "spiritless" timid person, or zombie. Fortunately good friends pulled me back to my church and our merciful God gave me a new "soul" and a "purpose" to carry on. He still grace me with His blessing everyday, and hopefully my current gf will be one of His blessing to me. I will pray on it. hehehe.Tks for opening up your story, it's definitely an encouragement to me..sometimes I think what's holding me back is the fear of being alone after divorce

Opps. paiseh. got carried away on my religious story.

Anyway, Pls do encourage your wife to try out conselling if both still value the marraige. Even when you apply for divorce, the court will still interview both to try to mediate, suggesting and advicing conselling before the couples confirm thier decision to preceed with the divorce. So it points to that conselling should not be brush away in each other's tots. In my case, I don't think counselling can change her mind to have kids, when I have failed and even her parents have failed.

No need to guess here guess there. You should privately seek a lawyer advice in the meantime. See where you stand.
Hunt around for one at Chinatown area, they are most likely willing to hear
you out without consultation fee. Avoid big time lawyers at Raffles area. Tks for the tips..I definitely need some legal advice in order to think clearly..if you know any good ones, do PM me

tks for the advice, bros..but let me ask one question..what would you seriously do if you want kid and your other half doesn't and this situation arise after you are married? The question of adoption came to my mind also, I was opposed to it at first (I don't mind to adopt, it's actually a merciful thing to do, but I would like to have at least one of my own), but recently I sounded out this to her (she was the one who suggested it last time), but her reply was adoption is OK, but in case I don't like the child, then please send him/her back.. I was like OMG, how can you say such things...for me it's clear that she does not like family life (I mean family with kids). I think nowadays in Singapore, the society is too modern already and some people really do not want to have kids..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aces68

I must praise you for your powers of deduction about my age.
but when you say there's definitely something you're not aware of, do you mean there's a third party OR do you mean something else ?

Well, i am not confirming but....
Nothing constant will just disappear overnite......
The lifestyles that the 2 of you had are very potential for another party to fill in the gaps...aka during times of loneliness
I am not saying it is so, but i feel it...sorry

Divorce is not a wonderful thing, though if i didnt have a kid, wud have done it long ago.........

But for you case, even basic intimacy is a no no, that's rings alarm bells in me bro........sorry, but what i suggest to you is not only seek mortal, but spiritual guidance and strength as well............

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aces68

these are her exact words, "if you want a child, it's not coming from my womb/stomach"..I really dun understand, I always thought that if a woman loves a man, she would be most happy to bear him a child..i mean that would be the ultimate sacrifice. As for BJ and painting, i can do without it and I agree that it's not SOP in a marriage (also having a child or being pregnant is also not SOP), but NO frenching ? c'mon ? how to get aroused ?




tks for the advice, bros..but let me ask one question..what would you seriously do if you want kid and your other half doesn't and this situation arise after you are married? The question of adoption came to my mind also, I was opposed to it at first (I don't mind to adopt, it's actually a merciful thing to do, but I would like to have at least one of my own), but recently I sounded out this to her (she was the one who suggested it last time), but her reply was adoption is OK, but in case I don't like the child, then please send him/her back.. I was like OMG, how can you say such things...for me it's clear that she does not like family life (I mean family with kids). I think nowadays in Singapore, the society is too modern already and some people really do not want to have kids..

Tink you're wif a very self centered person or something have transformed her into what she is now along the way.
Again, u want a kid, but dun let this WANT rule you into making stupid mistakes

[ekemono]

@ bro aces68,

I will try to locate my lawyer(cos he jump ship) and hook up something for you if possible

[Heart Break Kid]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Beware the videocall wif father n mother ploy. Very common tactic used by majority of PRCs to give u the impression that you're da one. Always remember, 99.99% of them as in family n friends are all in cahoots together.

As for wanting to know KC traps, like what bro heartbreakkid mentioned, those especially in the high end KTVs are profound in this KC game cos mostly the people who go there are pretty good fishes to catch....they are like the PHDs of KC, but to me, that's where the fun is hehehehehe

Just allow mi to share something more on experienced KTV girls.

KTV girls' objective is to hook big carrots if there can't find first they will..

look for an average-income guy made him love her by providing good sex then slowly suck his money dry. An average-income guy with limited fund foolishly spend all saving on the KTV whore and to another rich man come along she said bye bye to this poor guy

now start hooking up with these rich man (long term plan), she give these well-off good impression by not spending his money like buying lavish gifts & expensive dinners. KTV girls showed to the rich guys that they also have financial means to do or buy things themselves without relying on men because KTV girls' said that money earn thru work hard

Rich men thought they found true love with young pretty sexy KTV girls-
marry them as wife & honeymoon for first years. Later to find that their KTV wifes had been spending lavishly
& more that he could earn
They divorced about 3 years time.. having to split assets with his KTV wife.

So bros pursuing true relationships with KTV girls ..be warned