Maybe you should ask Boss if he got "full rights" to post here. If Boss got nothing to say, then I don't see why anyone else need to say anything.
Sometimes people make the mistake of thinking that they have used this forum for a few years, got a few hundred points and can zap a few points, they can dictate who can post in which thread. Bro NobleEagle, limpei tell you that you can post anywhere you fucking wish. And you don't owe anyone an explanation.
My friend..... this is what I have to say to you....signzzzzzz
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i hope ur not refering to me cus i dun think i talk veri loud n big here, besides maybe i jus dun find the thrill of hang flower even if i got the cash to throw, rather throw at overseas Anytime (the vetaran cheongsters tat frequent China will agree with me
Yes, you are one of those that I am talking about.... as a matter of the fact, you are the worst among the lot. Different people have differnt heirachy of needs and therefore different reason for cheonging hfj. If you dun get it or unable to appreciate it... fine keep it to yourself, no need for snid remarks about other people choice of entertainment.
O btw if you do not consider yourself a verteran cheongster that frequent china... then please dun quote them in your defense. That's not very intelligent.
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dun be so naive la, its not like back in the olden days where we r in sex slavery market in Singapore that they cannoy run away if they are not happy or felt cheated, they jus like to tell these sad stories so you will have pity n support them more.
got such thing meh, girl must top up monthly target if cannot hit, then like tat all clubs dun have to worry no customers, no business jus wait for the girls to topup can liao huh
With your above statement, you proved to everybody you know nuts about how hfj works. I dare not say I am an expert... but you are obviously an ignorant........an ignorant with the audacity to ridicule people who knows better than yourself.
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jin ay kam gong kia, doubt even multi-millionaires do tis kind of stupid thing do they?
Kamgong???!!! What gives you the right to call those high rollers kamgong. With that amount of money to spend, I don't think they can be more silly then u or me. I have more respect for that Dynasty patron then for you.
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i have encountered many girls even after spending/hanging $200~$500 per night and the more u spend the more they comes back asking for much more, esp even more when ur high/drunk, some even take the liberty to dictates the amt to spend on them, u ask for 2 LDs they went ahead buy 4 or 5 LDs sometimes 1 whole row of LDs, best part is end of the night when try to bring her back, she will play hard to get cus then u will come back try harder, tats when u pay more n more, even when eventually u managed to get her u might have spend quite a bomb
then on another occasion elsewhere, jus 1 or 2 LDs or $20~$50 flower, the girl willing to spend whole night accompany you and go bed with you
both also company both also contentment with money spend but which one is more justify which one is trying to carrot?
for me i will try 1 to 3 times to test water, girl come back for more without me telling her, dictating where, to go wat to eat, what to buy, dun pick up ur calls when u call...is trying to carrot you, dun waste time n money change next target...but if u Have money and dun mind spending more time n money to get her whereas u might save time n money over another girl, then by all means carry on...its ur own money n time anyway
Thai girls/LD joint vs hfj maybe similar but not the same. I belive most people who cheong hfj don't really cheong with the meat market mentality. Not sure whether you can understand that..... I also dunno how to explain to you. Some call it kumcheng and after saying that... sure enough some bros will repeat that rheotorical lecture about fuck and forget, spare me the kumcheng stories...blah blah. Life is short.... we live for and spend on things that make use happy. You sound like someone of limited means. If hagling over $10,20,30 dollars worth of ladies drink in exchange for a bonk makes you happy... fine by all means do whatever makes u happy. If somebody chose to spend thoudsands just to buy the affection/attention (real or fake does not matter in such cases anymore) of a singer.... hey congratulation if that makes him happy.
There's really no need for u to behave like a cheapskate walking into Hermes store ranting at the patrons that they are kamgong paying $30K for a limited edition of the Birkin bag when they could have gone to Carrefour to buy a $20 synthetic leather handbag.
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tis forum is not jus solely for jus sharing or gathering info but also to makes more friends even if u do not cheong the same type of joint so often
No one forbid u to make friend or post your comments.... but for crying out loud... watch your words and manners. This is a thread started and supported by bros that cheong hfj...... your snid remarks don't go too well with our senses!!!!
Maybe you should ask Boss if he got "full rights" to post here. If Boss got nothing to say, then I don't see why anyone else need to say anything.
Sometimes people make the mistake of thinking that they have used this forum for a few years, got a few hundred points and can zap a few points, they can dictate who can post in which thread. Bro NobleEagle, limpei tell you that you can post anywhere you fucking wish. And you don't owe anyone an explanation.
As already mentioned to all in my previous posts (except those who could not understand simple and proper English or those who are so blind or "short-sighted" that had missed them) : no one can stop anybody from posting nonsense in this forum.
Those nonsense postings will only expose oneself stupidity, and such stupidity always marks the different between human being and brainless animals.
NobleEagle, if your point drops, it is definitely not by me. U are not so irritating that I must do that to you and I don't resort in doing that. There are more irritating people here.
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Yes, you are one of those that I am talking about.... as a matter of the fact, you are the worst among the lot. Different people have differnt heirachy of needs and therefore different reason for cheonging hfj. If you dun get it or unable to appreciate it... fine keep it to yourself, no need for snid remarks about other people choice of entertainment.
Firstly, i have never snide at people tat cheong HFJ, jus at damn surprised at those tat spend obsencely big amt of money way above mkt rate to hang the flower jus for the ego, so if u one of them tat big ego is hurt, im sorry carry on hanging ur ego
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Originally Posted by Smeagol
O btw if you do not consider yourself a verteran cheongster that frequent china... then please dun quote them in your defense. That's not very intelligent.
do u need to be a China veteran then u will open up ur eyes to see the world and have experience, its precisely why im chatting n mixing with them so tat i can learn from them and be wiser, likewise im here to mingle and expose myself or keep to date of Sillypore joints too, but since u have such narrow sense of mind tat only people with same interest should be able to hang in this forum only and people tat cheong other places totally deosnt know wat they r talking abt...for ur info i WAS cheonging these KTV joints even way back since 1993 in SIN and JB, then there werent even flowers back then but basically all is still same time of cheong spots except intro newer marketing tactics like hanging flowers to 'dig" more money from u and my ex-gf was from once happening joint at Balestier so pls dun assume people who dun cheong now doesnt know wats going on but even till date i dun take myself as veteran cheongsters cus life is ever learning but definitely u dun need to spend like high rollers to learn things or a regular to understand the value of money
yes so i know nuts abt the hanging flowers system and such but girls in night spots are always girls in night spots regardless of whichever types, basically all is jus for money
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With your above statement, you proved to everybody you know nuts about how hfj works. I dare not say I am an expert... but you are obviously an ignorant........an ignorant with the audacity to ridicule people who knows better than yourself..
yes so i may know nuts abt the hanging flowers system now and such but girls in night spots are always girls in night spots regardless of whichever types, u dun need to be a genius to know how it clicks in nightspots here, bottomline is all is jus for money (but how much u are willing to be pay for it or be "carrot" by the girls) and no its not a matter of audacity but merely a matter of opinions tat to spend tat obsencely big amt is stupid for those spending $100K on jus a flower, everyone has their right of opinion, would u pay $100 dollars for a pack of cigerette jus becus u are flirty rich?
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Kamgong???!!! What gives you the right to call those high rollers kamgong. With that amount of money to spend, I don't think they can be more silly then u or me. I have more respect for that Dynasty patron then for you
Its fact...either kamgong or the other...high rollers have high rollers playground, going low-end n midend to fluant their money to show appeas their ego way above mkt rates in these joints is...i know of few tat goes to Tianaman Everyday book VIP rm with pool table but even then they also dun do these type of things to such extent, u may idolize them by all means but i have my right of opinions as well but really ask urself tis question (if u r not one in the first place), if u really becomes a high roller yourself, would u spend it in tis fashion as well?
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Thai girls/LD joint vs hfj maybe similar but not the same. I belive most people who cheong hfj don't really cheong with the meat market mentality. Not sure whether you can understand that..... I also dunno how to explain to you. Some call it kumcheng and after saying that... sure enough some bros will repeat that rheotorical lecture about fuck and forget, spare me the kumcheng stories...blah blah. Life is short.... we live for and spend on things that make use happy. You sound like someone of limited means. If hagling over $10,20,30 dollars worth of ladies drink in exchange for a bonk makes you happy... fine by all means do whatever makes u happy. If somebody chose to spend thoudsands just to buy the affection/attention (real or fake does not matter in such cases anymore) of a singer.... hey congratulation if that makes him happy.
yes u r right its their money they have right to spend watever they want but tat doesnt means i dun have the right to my own opinion tat hanging $100 for a pussy and paying $100K for the same pussy is silly even thou with the amt u can easily "pow" smilar kind of girl or better and is solely yours or u have much better value for money elsewhere anytime
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Originally Posted by Smeagol
There's really no need for u to behave like a cheapskate walking into Hermes store ranting at the patrons that they are kamgong paying $30K for a limited edition of the Birkin bag when they could have gone to Carrefour to buy a $20 synthetic leather handbag..
theres a clear line between cheapskate n being super robert/kamgong/high rollers fluanting in wrong level of places , paying $20 dollars tips in highend joint and paying $2000 for tips in lowend/midend...jus like paying $500 dollars for a $50 GL girl
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Originally Posted by Smeagol
No one forbid u to make friend or post your comments.... but for crying out loud... watch your words and manners. This is a thread started and supported by bros that cheong hfj...... your snid remarks don't go too well with our senses!!!!
If u r one of them or those tat u idolized and i offer my sincere appology but my words n manners r in order with no disrespect to anyone personally
If u r one of them or those tat u idolized and i offer my sincere appology but my words n manners r in order with no disrespect to anyone personally
Hey take a pointer from that snake fella.... you don't owe me or anybody any apologies. I've given u a piece of my mind... and it should be clear to you that i am not the only one not too pleased with your attitude. Eyeballing through your reply, I also cannot tell whether you understand my message or not.
Most people at least for myself and many bros I personally know here DO NOT CHEONG hfj with the meat market mentality. if you just could not evolve beyond that realm of pussy value for money mindset, I guess you will never understand.
Once again.... I wish u well and great successes in your pussies conquest.... dun bother to reply anymore.... good day
...............do u need to be a China veteran then u will open up ur eyes to see the world and have experience, its precisely why im chatting n mixing with them so tat i can learn from them and be wiser, likewise im here to mingle and expose myself or keep to date of Sillypore joints too, but since u have such narrow sense of mind tat only people with same interest should be able to hang in this forum only and people tat cheong other places totally deosnt know wat they r talking abt...for ur info i WAS cheonging these KTV joints even way back since 1993 in SIN and JB, then there werent even flowers back then but basically all is still same time of cheong spots except intro newer marketing tactics like hanging flowers to 'dig" more money from u and my ex-gf was from once happening joint at Balestier so pls dun assume people who dun cheong now doesnt know wats going on but even till date i dun take myself as veteran cheongsters cus life is ever learning but definitely u dun need to spend like high rollers to learn things or a regular to understand the value of money
yes so i know nuts abt the hanging flowers system and such but girls in night spots are always girls in night spots regardless of whichever types, basically all is jus for money
yes so i may know nuts abt the hanging flowers system now and such but girls in night spots are always girls in night spots regardless of whichever types, u dun need to be a genius to know how it clicks in nightspots here, bottomline is all is jus for money (but how much u are willing to be pay for it or be "carrot" by the girls) .....
........to my own opinion tat hanging $100 for a pussy and paying $100K for the same pussy is silly even thou with the amt u can easily "pow" smilar kind of girl or better and is solely yours or u have much better value for money elsewhere anytime
Yes, you definitely know nut about FHJ.
We have no problem with bro browsing this thread and occasionally raise questions or share some INFO on the cheong scene, but not keep expressing your views or commenting on others' comments and then exchange personal opinoins and views again and again that are totally not relating to the activities. There is zero contribution to all readers by doing so as no one is interested in what and how you think. You can keep your views, comments, opioins to yourself or talk to your own group but not doing here to tire everybody's eyes.
You might think that you are an old bird started cheinging since 1993. Be more humble friend, your uncle now 40+ here start cheong La-Sub-Bar since 1977 while still in secondary school till now, I dont know whether wre you then and now you are talking loud here.
My advice: share what you can here, but don't talk nonsense. If you wish to be active here, go expore some of the HFJ and so that you can understand the actiivties better and hence communicate better with bro here. If not continue with your chenging in china, KTV, pub and share your experience and encounters in the relevant threads. You will earn respect there.
Of course no one can stop you from making noises here, if you want to continue to be a pain in everybody's ass.
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Firstly, i have never snide at people tat cheong HFJ, jus at damn surprised at those tat spend obsencely big amt of money way above mkt rate to hang the flower jus for the ego, so if u one of them tat big ego is hurt, im sorry carry on hanging ur ego
do u need to be a China veteran then u will open up ur eyes to see the world and have experience, its precisely why im chatting n mixing with them so tat i can learn from them and be wiser, likewise im here to mingle and expose myself or keep to date of Sillypore joints too, but since u have such narrow sense of mind tat only people with same interest should be able to hang in this forum only and people tat cheong other places totally deosnt know wat they r talking abt...for ur info i WAS cheonging these KTV joints even way back since 1993 in SIN and JB, then there werent even flowers back then but basically all is still same time of cheong spots except intro newer marketing tactics like hanging flowers to 'dig" more money from u and my ex-gf was from once happening joint at Balestier so pls dun assume people who dun cheong now doesnt know wats going on but even till date i dun take myself as veteran cheongsters cus life is ever learning but definitely u dun need to spend like high rollers to learn things or a regular to understand the value of money
yes so i know nuts abt the hanging flowers system and such but girls in night spots are always girls in night spots regardless of whichever types, basically all is jus for money
Its fact...either kamgong or the other...high rollers have high rollers playground, going low-end n midend to fluant their money to show appeas their ego way above mkt rates in these joints is...i know of few tat goes to Tianaman Everyday book VIP rm with pool table but even then they also dun do these type of things to such extent, u may idolize them by all means but i have my right of opinions as well but really ask urself tis question (if u r not one in the first place), if u really becomes a high roller yourself, would u spend it in tis fashion as well?
yes u r right its their money they have right to spend watever they want but tat doesnt means i dun have the right to my own opinion tat hanging $100 for a pussy and paying $100K for the same pussy is silly even thou with the amt u can easily "pow" smilar kind of girl or better and is solely yours or u have much better value for money elsewhere anytime
If u r one of them or those tat u idolized and i offer my sincere appology but my words n manners r in order with no disrespect to anyone personally
i smell some gunpowder here. all pls relax n be happy. bro NobleEagle, i saw u mention few times in tis as well as previous post the word market rate n then u also admit that u dun really know abt HFJ. so whats the market when u dunno it? well so u ever fall in love with a WL that u regard her as yr ex-gf. then u should noe that the time n money u spend on her is way beyond the market rate ya? not all gals in HFJ come here knowing v well whats gonna happen. so they r not the same as ktv gals. simple example, ktv gal suka suka can dun go work. HFJ gal cant. hv to punch card n need MC or even some pay cut if they fall sick. needless to say if they wan a break. KTV gal hv to run when there is a raid. seldom HFJ raided. even so, no one runs. and are u v sure with the same amount u can get the same gal who sings n dance on the stage with a valid work permit n was at the same time admired by many other guys? show me where. i understand where u coming from. a pussy is a pussy why pay so much. i too know n is active in FL thread. $60 i get a nice bbbj n even CIM. how many HFJ/KTV gal offer that? i think non except if there is KC. n side track a bit, do u noe how much u need to spend to maint a wife? is it worth it for just the pussy? wait wait dun get angry. so i m trying to tell u, its not just the pussy issue. ego is 1 thing. on the other hand u n i have to admit that man sometimes 犯贱. why must i give in to my wife when i can easy easy pay some money to get a 'better' pussy? dun tell me wife is wife WL is WL. since all pussys are the same....
wanna talk about history, i too have some to share..........
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Once again.... I wish u well and great successes in your pussies conquest....
I wish u well and great successes in your singer conquest
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Yes, you definitely know nut about FHJ.
You might think that you are an old bird started cheinging since 1993. Be more humble friend, your uncle now 40+ here start cheong La-Sub-Bar since 1977 while still in secondary school till now, I dont know whether wre you then and now you are talking loud here.
Of course no one can stop you from making noises here, if you want to continue to be a pain in everybody's ass.
aiyoh bro, since when u became uncle. remind me of those days 嘉年华 at high street centre, regent at cuppage n hongkong palace at eu tong sen street beside pearl centre. also there were many la sup bar at GL n jln besar area with m'sian SYTs. was real cheap back then. in a la sup bar just $5 tip u can auto room a m'sian SYT like wat happen in TH n BS now. onli the place is darker.
n no la not really pain in ass, a bit ticklish nia
Have a beer and cool it off, everyone has there own way of doing their things and they like their rewards differently - Maslow's Hierarchy
I had met people who always go back to the same singer everytime to suport the singer. His motive - taking a cut of the excess rewards from the money because he goes on entertainment budget which he does not pay a single cent but those who entertain him can justify with the business this guy can give. So he gets the girl and also the dough
I also know of a guy who drives Ferrari and owns a fleet of beemers and mercs who can give rolexS just for an overnite session and its not a simple rolly but a "queen". His business rakes in much more than sufficient and that is nothing for him.
Then again I have also know of scumballs who give cheques that bounced after promising I will take care of you so that you won't need to work so hard.
At the end of the day, so long as they achieve their needs, they don't care how its done. That's why we are not clones but individuals with your own brain
some singers will approach their regular customer to hang flower for them, but with the codition that customers only pay for their 30/40% of HF money and the rest will be fork-up bu singers their own...in order to achive monthly target...
so is win-win situation for both parties...but only apply to those regular or their well-known customers....
Wah, so much commentary. I too want to share a bit. Everyone has their own value of money, most importantly is whether you are happy and you find it worthwhile or not. In the eye of others, it may be crazy and wastage, why bother? at the end of the day, you are the one enjoying. We earn and we spend, how you want to spend is up to each individual. Why let others dictate you?
In HFJ, people go there has different motives, you spend to achieve your motive. Worth or not is up to each person as we are not aware of their private arrangements. Occassionally we can comment but not too personal, be humble and be objective.
Yes, I do agree that those PRC gals are here to make money but they never pointed a knife at us. You pay what you think is worth, change if you are not happy or find somewhere more money worth.
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Bro who up me, plse leave your nick and I will up you back. We are here to share.
bro smeagol hv cheong HFJ for how many years ready. n how many singer he had seen ready. if any singer want to treat him like mr robert or kena carrot by them ask them to wait longlong. he is smarter ten snake, he koe wat to do. even if he spend a bomb in someone. n it dun mean that he is a fool or kena carrot by her or wat. that is his spending power on a singer that he wish to support. he is rich n wat to do!
sometime singer spend her time with us n we jus repaying her back by hanging flower. just like willing to sell n willing to buy trading. cos we dun want to own them anything as they r here to earn their living. at least we r better off from someone or monster that dun pay anytin after singer had company them 1 bloody whole nite.
bro ito as i know him. he hv cheong in this industry for donkey years ready. like wat ppl say. 家有一老如有一宝。 I sure support his comment.
bro noble eagle if u say u koe not much abt HFJ. i suggest u less comment.
Gentle reminder to finger pointers
$$$ in our pocket sio sio...
big head small head we decide what to give...
blame NO ONE if end result not satisfying...
I pay peanuts to get monkeys...
some act rich but pay bounced cheques...
some other replace $$$ by giving KC
others pay premium for same pussy...
I think all men are humsup...
some think others have ego problem...
some other think others are carrot heads...
some some other think others splitting cost with pussy...
only others with $$$ can share the feeling....
Others think some knows nothing...
Others think some other are sour grapes...
Others tells some some other to mind own business...
scam or ego, meat or no meat...
just another form of relaxation...
Time or $$$ or both a must...
REAL LOSERS walk away UNHAPPY wor.....
Hey take a pointer from that snake fella.... you don't owe me or anybody any apologies. I've given u a piece of my mind... and it should be clear to you that i am not the only one not too pleased with your attitude. Eyeballing through your reply, I also cannot tell whether you understand my message or not.
Most people at least for myself and many bros I personally know here DO NOT CHEONG hfj with the meat market mentality. if you just could not evolve beyond that realm of pussy value for money mindset, I guess you will never understand.
Once again.... I wish u well and great successes in your pussies conquest.... dun bother to reply anymore.... good day
Hey Smeagol.
i like the way u pen the above, very impressive and got standard...its brings out the best champage (Dom Perignon) in your character and it showed that you are a polished diamond..clap...clap...
aiyoh bro, since when u became uncle. remind me of those days 嘉年华 at high street centre, regent at cuppage n hongkong palace at eu tong sen street beside pearl centre. also there were many la sup bar at GL n jln besar area with m'sian SYTs. was real cheap back then. in a la sup bar just $5 tip u can auto room a m'sian SYT like wat happen in TH n BS now. onli the place is darker.
n no la not really pain in ass, a bit ticklish nia
Peopole who has the same cheong histry like me will know where are "星洲"，"竹林"，"新宝宝"，"外星人"， etc. That time u couldn't even find one pussy hair of PRC as they are total not in the scene yet. And if u want service (call for gals, billing, etc), no system for u to press the remote to call for service, just light up your lighter high up in the air and u will be served.
Later there was an invasion of Malaysian gals to higher lass niteclub like "Apollo", "Dynasty", "大亨","贵都" (the old one not 贵都经典), "好莱坞","大上海"，"Dallas","天上人间", etc.
When ppl get sick of local scene. many diverted to Malaysia niteclub like "Vincent", "夜来香","金宫"，"好莱坞"，etc at Sentosa Garden and numerous KTV at other night spots.
As for massage activites, that time we had “黑玻璃” before the bloom of the now HC, I am sure that bring back many unforgetable memories for people of my age.
As for overseas sex trips. the most popular place that time was Haytti and late Batam and Tanjong Pinang, before China "open up" it's "meat market". Only then there was a influx of cheongster to 广州，东莞，望牛敦，then 深圳 and other province.
I waitness the changes and cheong since then till now. Might be stupid as some of my kakis had already stopped cheonging or slow down, but this is my life: I play, I participate and therefore can share and contribute here.
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06-10-2008, 05:55 PM
wah piang... you chap people dun like that quote me leh!!! ha ha ha
