Tears For A PRC Prostitute

[lovemachine]

anyway guys for all the KC traps for them.

yes the family are in it together, many time dad, mum and sibling help out to get money from you. even my distant relatives in china do it to my family here. asking for money for this and that.

pls do understand that just 20 plus years ago they were still a socialist economy and all of a sudden capitalism was implemented. there are many people who are caught in the poverty cycle. uneducated and seeing how people around them prosper, we cant feel what they experienced.

pls do remember that the chinese race, i believe is one that is competitive and many of them do not want to be left behind (just like how singaporeans are kiasu).

for those who are uneducated, even if they work, they get like less than 1k RMB per month, going down this line is the fastest and surest way to make money.

and in china, after my trips there mingling with people from diff part, i feel that to them, as long as you are rich, people dont give a shit about how you get your money. and in my opinion, they do not really have an independent rule of law (or rather law enforcement is very weak).

so if we use our singapore context to view them, honestly yes we despise them. But we dun have the rights to do so. no one knows what they have been through and what they are going through. and its the road they choose, they themselves know the consequences.

for e.g., yes many of them think of us singaporean man as suckers. they can cook up lame excuses like family sick, blah blah blah and honestly most of us know its lame and fake, but we dun wanna expose them. to my friends and myself - we believe "ok this is damn lame. you just want some money, if its in the hundreds and i can afford it. i dun mind giving you the money, afterall, you are just a human being".

and after that they do treat you better or blow you harder in your next sexual encounter.

from my experience with these WL (living with them and spending a lot of time with them),

1. i think for a woman, exclusive rights to her body is sacred until she sells it. thus, she might no longer be able to feel a sense of belonging and security to a man. only money can make her feel safe.

2. they do think singaporean guys are dumb. from what i understand, after a while, they realised that WE DO KNOW their tricks, but we give it out of gentlemanliness (if its not too much) . but bear in mind theres a thin line between helping and being a sucker.

3. they think singaporean guys have better "su chi" quality than those in china. I heard from many that those (blue collar) chinese man are rough and violent. many even dun work and depend on their wives and gfs to work. of course i would like to state that this make up a small portion of the chinese population.

and also, during my r/s with WL, i tried giving advice like how she should consider doing a small time biz to generate a sustainable income as currently, being uneducated - her only asset - beauty will depreciate with time and how she cannot work in this line. and know what? becos their friends and her are so much "the same kind" - meaning all of them are uneducated, there is such a strong convergence in their thinking that their "silly beliefs" are cast in stone in their mind.

to them, their way of financial security is:

1. buy an apartment in china (fully paid up) usually from 100k and up RMB depending on province and city

2. save another 500k RMB and up where possible (very few actually do business or investment, they park their money in savings and time deposits)

3. get a husband to support them.

i have tried to talk my WL many many times that she will grow old and one day she cant work in this line and the best way out is to learn english and pic k up a skill (say basic accounting and business) so that she can start a small business and have a sustainable income. but she always believe that even if we dont work out, in the next few years she will have no lack of suitors. one thing is that she is blinded by the fact that many guys are going after her and she doesnt consider how many are serious. so being pretty can work against a woman sometimes as she is in a constant stated of being "flattered" by those courtships.

but what to do? i cant help her out financially, try to teach her english she not keen.

but then again, if she were to settle in china, she wont need this skill (though i think its useful for her), and shes a saver overall and i think she will do just fine.

sighz, now as im typing i also wondering hows the development between himself and her. for me, i know almost for sure that guy is interested in her becos of her looks and most probably wont marry her. i just hope if that happens, she wont put her hope too high and fall too bad. afterall, shes just a human being trying to have a way out to better life.

all the best my love. i really wish you well. (thats what i call her affectionately)

[glooper83]

Wow... i think that you are still thinking about her a lot. The fact that you wrote so much... its as though you were trying to let out steam... However, i found quite a few noteworthy pointers and i do agree to some others also. But i still feel that you were just blabbering on and on.. macham like miss someone a lot and just go on writing non stop.

I really dunno how to advise you because i also know that i wouldn't take the chance to marry a prc WL. And since i know that i wouldn't have any outcome, i wouldn't even start a r/s. But in your case, you seem to like her pretty much but held back by marriage and giving her stability. Perhaps if you can't face your family here to marry her, have you considered migrating to China with her to start life "anew"?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro LoveMachine, your expression is that of an unwanting release.......I feel for you bro..
You did the right thing.
From what you said, allow me to give my puny 2cents worth

They've all made some $$$$$....if they wanted to start a small biz, many wud have...but many still came back.....
My take on this is like that.....
These gals know where they stand, rich men are unpredictable and arrogant beings...also, if i can buy you today, i can buy another attitude...........very insecure short term investment
Whereas another man of lower stature will be very secure for this kinda gal......cash cow kinda thing also........very secure long term investment

Like I've mentioned many times, yes they're humans...agreed, but GREED drives them....not love! Yes they know what's love and trust me, they are willing to loose it to chase that loveless pot of gold....that's their mentality bro.......

Good that you left, cos, one day, the guy dumps her, she'll come back to you......just when you think the storm has passed, another rich bloke comes along & your nightmare begins again........
It'll never end bro.....they also dun know when to end...only one day when they cant do it anymore for watever reasons then they'll stop....else redemption for these breed is very low bro.....

Well done bro, kudos....upzzz u

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by glooper83

Perhaps if you can't face your family here to marry her, have you considered migrating to China with her to start life "anew"?

Eh, you give this kinda advise want to sabo people isit??? hahahahaha
Have you ever moved to another country to stay before?
Do you know the initial $$$$ you'll need to sustain?
Do you know the income bracket over there?

Man, you gotta see the world more dude.......you're very naive to have such tots.

[ekemono]

@ bro lovemachine,

I read your updates with joy that you have set directions that fred you from more confused emotions and tots.

I have not been thru what you have gone thru but my words of encouragement is : "Good horse no eat return grass"
hehehe.. I F9 in written Chinese. Paiseh.

Dun ever take her back no matter how much you long for her, cos as what bro DYBJ advice, the cycle with never ends.
I have expected her to love you too, but if she had truely chosen to settle down, no matter what BMW or Ferrari guys comes along, she will not stray.
Obviously, her piority is otherwise.

In short, she is not ready yet.

[glooper83]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Eh, you give this kinda advise want to sabo people isit??? hahahahaha
Have you ever moved to another country to stay before?
Do you know the initial $$$$ you'll need to sustain?
Do you know the income bracket over there?

Man, you gotta see the world more dude.......you're very naive to have such tots.

Haha.. No la.

I haven't. All i know is that i am pretty sick and tired of being cropped up in this tiny red dot that i really hope to migrate some day. I know that migration would be tough, but i was thinking that migrating to China would be interesting. Especially if one has enough savings, can go over and live fairly comfortably. Only what i think la, i know its not so simple.

Anyway, if i migrated, i wouldn't want to live in another City. Whats the point? I would prefer somewhere in the countryside, living a slower pace of life, being self-sustainable. Being happy everyday without getting scolded by bosses, worried by stress of the economy and so on. Being close to nature... etc. But i guess pretty soon i'd be yearning for the city again. Ahh.. the fickleness of the human brain..

My life is filled with idealistic thinking, the stuff that dreams are made on. I guess it could be a bad and a good thing. If i put those dreams into action, i'd be called an inventor. Haha..

[hunger_for_sex]

Originally Posted by lovemachine

okies just some updates on my side.

i stuck to my decision to let her have her shot at the new guy.

honestly i dun think the guy is serious about her, probably infatuated with her.

but anyway i cant decide for her.

and for me, deep inside i know i wont marry her, so its not fair for me to hold her back as afterall as a woman, she needs someone to settle down with.

i know her "make money" instincts" really kicked in judging by the frequency of how fast the presents the guy gave her are stocking up at home. for me, i know she prefers money over gifts, but for this guy, he is throwing a lot of money and beforelong, he will be throwing money.

actually i could have just live with it as to me, i dun intend to marry her, i mean, its sex, companionship and yes liking for her.

but i think i have liked her more than what i thought and i cant bear the thought that shes "touched" by another guy.

over the last few days, i just went on with my work and tried to sian another 2 girls to keep my mind occupied. she took the initiatives to sms me a few times in a day - telling me shes just making money and wants to be with me. i just told her point blank that she shld go all out for this rich guy. Her calls ensued immediately after that sms of me telling her to "go for it". but i rejected all those calls.

she pleaded via sms not to do this and asked me if its becos i felt threatened.

"i will really be happy for you if you find someone who can take care of you"

"no, i want you"

"dun be stupid, go for it"

"no i want you"

i didnt reply and she followed up with another sms telling me if my business is ok and if i need $$$

i said no.

and that was it.

i also dunno how to explain how i feel now. its a mixed feeling really.

1. yes, sad and down in terms that this has ended (but if she tries hard enough i might relent haha)

2. im happy that i can let her go for her shot, just in case she can work it out with that guy i wont be guilty of holding her back. shes no longer young

3. i think i like her more than i thought - cos i dun really feel like letting her go at the same time haha

above all, i think financially she lost out as she really spent a lot of time with me and she spends a lot on us (and me).

Conclusion: yes i think she does like me based on what i thought over and over. its fate and i will keep this really special memories with me till i die. but i cant deny that shes also aftering the passport here. but then again, its EVERYONE's right to purse a better life.

and im already also sianing other girls now. but i do really like her. haha

I feel for u bro, my take is the same with u. If they dun quit, even if we dun mind their past, which men when they really like that gal can take it when another men are fucking her for $. In this situation, i hope she will quit , if not i also c no future for us

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by hunger_for_sex

I feel for u bro, my take is the same with u. If they dun quit, even if we dun mind their past, which men when they really like that gal can take it when another men are fucking her for $. In this situation, i hope she will quit , if not i also c no future for us

Yes bro you're rite.
Remember, though the 2 of you may be in luv or have feelings with one another, the "DRIVE" of the 2 of you are totally different.
The guy is driven with luv and emotions.
The WL, though have emotions and luv cos they human also wat...is driven or ruled by $$$$$$

[Darkstorm]

Originally Posted by lovemachine

hi collin,

thanks a lot, will let you know if i need any help. been just working and not thinking about anything. haha

Maybe I should private message you.

[Darkstorm]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Eh, you give this kinda advise want to sabo people isit??? hahahahaha
Have you ever moved to another country to stay before?
Do you know the initial $$$$ you'll need to sustain?
Do you know the income bracket over there?

Man, you gotta see the world more dude.......you're very naive to have such tots.

I disagree he is naive.

[Sylvan]

Originally Posted by lovemachine

personally the most basic knowledge you should have includes:

The 4 Great Chinese Literary:
1. Journey to the West (西游记)
2.Dream of the Red Chamber (红楼梦)
3.Romance of The Three Kingdoms (三国演义)
4.Water Margin or Outlaws of the Marsh or All Men Are Brothers or The Marshes of Mount Liang (水浒传)

Hey TS, true man...my WL once ask me who is e author of this 4 great chinese literary n except for Journey to the west i knw who is e author...e rest I mouth stuck cock (chui ta lan)

Originally Posted by lovemachine

Ok, before i deviate too far, here are some hints that they might drop if they are interested in you (but bear in mind this can be a double edge sword).

1. They let you know where they stay in geylang
2. They dun make you pay too much for them and ask you for gifts (to me i think simple gifts here and there always spice up a relationship)
3. They dun accept payments when you fuck them (but pls give them something in return in kinds if not they will think you are trying to take advantage).
4. They ask you what your plans in singapore are
5. They ask you to go back to china with them

Basically its a trust thing if they share very private info with you as with that info you can really screw them if you want to.

1. During her stay in GL i knw where she stay n send her back after every outing wif her...

2. She was looking for a branded perfume and small bottle cost $80 n big bottle cost $150, i ask her to choose wat size she wan (i tink she expecting me to buy for her) but she choose a small bottle, in fact i m e big carrot to tell her it is mre worth it to buy a big bottle...

3. Only once after we went out i bonk her wifout paying her... in fact when we r in e room kissing n she is abt to strip me, i stop her but she told me she is nt charging me $

4. she nv ask thou...

5. There is once she actually tell me softly to go china see parents but i can't hear wat she is really telling me n i tell her to repeat but she is too 'shy' to say it loud...

[lovemachine]

Originally Posted by glooper83

Wow... i think that you are still thinking about her a lot. The fact that you wrote so much... its as though you were trying to let out steam... However, i found quite a few noteworthy pointers and i do agree to some others also. But i still feel that you were just blabbering on and on.. macham like miss someone a lot and just go on writing non stop.

I really dunno how to advise you because i also know that i wouldn't take the chance to marry a prc WL. And since i know that i wouldn't have any outcome, i wouldn't even start a r/s. But in your case, you seem to like her pretty much but held back by marriage and giving her stability. Perhaps if you can't face your family here to marry her, have you considered migrating to China with her to start life "anew"?

hi glooper, yes i am still thinking about her. actually for the last few days she has been smsing me telling me that its not possible between herself and the guy and shes just trying to maximise her gains. but somewhat, i can sense from the tone of the sms that yes - she did already have the tots of trying this guy out - a chance out of poverty.

anyway my best buddy also told me he himself is like you, he will not get into a r/s in the first place, so no problems like mine (the aftermath). But i self justified it by seeing it as a life experience and true enough:

1. yes she was (or maybe is) serious about me
2. i didnt burn a hole in my wallet
3. it was a beautiful experience with her. i really dun regret it.

although i say im not head over toes over her now, but the last few nights i have been staying up late (like now) waiting for her sms. when i went to geylang just now and saw a raid at L8, i was freaking worried about her. Anyway just went also went to L20 to bonk legal prc and honestly im missing her now.

[lovemachine]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro LoveMachine, your expression is that of an unwanting release.......I feel for you bro..
You did the right thing.
From what you said, allow me to give my puny 2cents worth

They've all made some $$$$$....if they wanted to start a small biz, many wud have...but many still came back.....
My take on this is like that.....
These gals know where they stand, rich men are unpredictable and arrogant beings...also, if i can buy you today, i can buy another attitude...........very insecure short term investment
Whereas another man of lower stature will be very secure for this kinda gal......cash cow kinda thing also........very secure long term investment

Like I've mentioned many times, yes they're humans...agreed, but GREED drives them....not love! Yes they know what's love and trust me, they are willing to loose it to chase that loveless pot of gold....that's their mentality bro.......

Good that you left, cos, one day, the guy dumps her, she'll come back to you......just when you think the storm has passed, another rich bloke comes along & your nightmare begins again........
It'll never end bro.....they also dun know when to end...only one day when they cant do it anymore for watever reasons then they'll stop....else redemption for these breed is very low bro.....

Well done bro, kudos....upzzz u

yes i do agree, they are very greedy, but i do believe no one wishes to be a WL. And when they do it, they are def lured by the easy money.

Honestly she already told me that once she milked the guy dry (yes she told me that) she will stop and told me that we should continue. Her reason? Business is bad and she has to do this. But she knows im not convinced and told me that we can take a short break - meaning dun stay together first but can go out, eat, date and make love as per normal.

honestly in the first place, deep inside me i know i wont marry her, so whether she ditches for another guy shouldnt affect me too much. And in fact, i should be happy if i stuck to my original plan - being able to continue the relationship with her (good sex with feelings) while not holding her back.

But its also till now that i realised i like her more than i thought. As i cant stand the thought of her betraying me emotionally.

Right now, honestly im sad (not depressed or totally down honestly) but at the same time somewhat i do hope she succeed with that guy. WL or not, any woman as the right to find the best man to take care of her - this is a fact that i long accepted. And from my experience with her, she is someone who can part with her money for someone she likes and spend time (not working = loss in income) with her loved one. So she is capable of such a relationship. To me this means she not all that greedy.

My friend has already pre empted me on what she will do when she fails in say a few weeks or months (my buddy believes she WILL fail). For me, the tot of going back to her feels like a loser - reason? She did pick someone much richer than me and like the saying goes, hao ma bu chi hui tou cao (literally translates: a good horse does not turn back to eat the grass from the previous pasture). But who knows cos my buddy is already betting that i will return. haha.

[lovemachine]

To My Dear Jing Er (yes her real name).

It is with much sadness within me that im penning this letter addressed to you - though i know you will never read this. This is a way of letting it out - a way to sooth my mood.

Over the last few days, i have been missing you and thinking of you almost every moment that i was awake. And trust me, i have been awake most of the time - either working or staying up late waiting for your sms. I have been looking forward to your sms every night - though ironically i know that whatever that you text me, i would simply rebuke you and try my best to end this. But still, i want to hear from you.

Honestly speaking, i am disappointed in you that you could have fallen for someone else that easily - and yes too easily. I mean, yes i know hes far richer but to make a decision that fast - it only meant you were driven by your greed and your desire to get out of poverty. Its your right to get a capable man to take care of you, its your right to give it a shot - i respect that. But as someone who genuinely feels for you, this will not serve your self -interests well for you in the long run. Many a times i have told you to strike a balance between reality and your desire for money. Im not saint, but in this world, odds are simply against anyone to become rich overnight.

Anyway this is not a letter to demean you, this is a letter to let it out for me . Contrary to my previous beliefs, i have found that it is indeed possible to have true liking (i wont use the strong word "love" here though) between WL and their customers. Money is always in the equation for any relationships, and i have found you to be very self-less on the issues with regards to finance during our beautiful journey. This has greatly surprised me and touched me. And to be honest, many a time, i was testing you - that im either cash-strapped or broke. Im neither actually. In fact, im much better off than what you thought. But forgive me on this, as without doing this, i would never know if you truly like me. Now that i know you do (or rather did), you have already made the decision to go for the other guy. I am indeed disappointed, but i still respect your rights to purse your happiness.

And please believe me that i consider you as my girlfriend. Reason? We have spent a lot of quality time together, been through some hiccups (tests i gave you which you passed with flying colours) and our quarrels. Although i know i would never propose to you, but very honestly, with each passing day that we spent, thoughts of how we could possibly settle down together surfaced every single day. Especially when you laid in my arms sleeping or chatting, i always wished for that special moment to freeze in time and to have you for eternity.

However being the realist i am, i am ashame to say that these thoughts are dismissed when the emotions settle down. Without being disrespectful, i had promised myself that this were to be a short term relationship - that that serves to fulfill my wish of dating a WL. This you do not know, and i know its unfair to you. But please trust me, i really like you a lot as you have really touched me.

The beautiful stuff aside, let me apologise once again for those quarrels. The harsh words i used them make me guilty even at this point in time. It pains me in fact as i had effectively scarred what was to be a perfect relationship. But forgive me, for i was being my true self and during those horrible quarrels, i was frank with some of the stuff i said.

Remember the first quarrel we had when i called you a cheat whore and used words like "disgusting" and "dirty". My heart broke when i saw how you broke down and cry at my harsh words. I am truly sorry for even though i know you are in this line before we met. No man who truly likes his girl can stand the thought of you being touched by other man and being the sexual subject of another male. I am not a bad tempered person in nature, but i blew up then because when you did work - every moment was living hell for me. And please believe me, the more that i like you, the more painful it got for me. Love and pain do not bode well in a relationship.

Looking back, i realised that i was too immature in my thinking, you have already made me promise not to make an issue out of this right from the start of the relationship and that you would quit after making the money you set out. And i also trusted you in the remittance slips you showed me as proof of how far away you were in meeting your goal. I flared up becos i felt for you.

[lovemachine]

Anyway now that you have made the decision (please stop denying this in front of me as it would piss me off more), i hope you will not forget my words. Im not saint or wise man, but my beliefs are moderate and i feel they will serve you well.

Everyone wants money, like yourself, i want to become rich - but your chances of becoming rich is highest if you work for it rather than depend on anyone else. this is true for everyone.

Anyway though it has been a week since you began seeing this guy, it felt like forever for me. Stupid thoughts like if hes just fooling your feelings surfaces. Why should i care since you have moved on? Becos i fear that your desire to hitch up with him might get the better of you and you might end up being hurt.

Anyway i just wanna share a little secret, during the past week, every night i wished for you to sms me that you will stick with me instead of going out with him. haha. Yes im waiting for that. And deep inside i also know that with each passing day that you didnt do so, chances are we will never get back together. But the ironic thing is, if you do actually say that - although i will be delighted - im afraid im holding you back as i dun intend to propose.

Thus, by making it easy for you to move on with your decision by not responding to your "pleas" to salvage our r/s, i am acting in your best interests. Please know that i could have been a bastard who will dua you in the end. Please appreciate that i did not do this and i feel that im fair at this point in time. I have done such bastardly acts before and as such, im capable of doing so. I didnt becos i do actually love you i guess. haha

Also, get yourself out of this line asap. I have told you before that we only live once. While i cannot change the fact that you have been in this line, i have told you that you CAN plan to stop working in this line. I hope that whoever you are with, or even if you are single - stick to your plan of achieving your monetary goal and stop working. During the course of our relationship, i have googled lotsa research papers on the impact of your work to your well being and found that it is possible for you to return to the normal path and be happy - if you choose to do so.

Anyway enough said as i hope you will remember me till the day you depart from this world .Reason? I have cheated on my previous 3 girlfriends (serious one) but i have NEVER cheated on you. Haha, i know this sounds "DUH" but trust me, i not exactly the faithful kind so consider yourself "lucky" that i was really 100% faithful for the almost 1-year relationship we had. For that, i welcome you as the record holder for the "Guinness My-World Record For The Girlfriend That I am 100% Faithful To!" And the beautiful thing about this is that you never checked on me and that i was 100% faithful becos thoughts of going astray never crossed my mind! Pls believe me.

Anyway i really wish for the best for you in your life. You are beautiful and intelligent, and i often wondered how life would be for you if you were born in here in Singapore.

With Love,
Xiao B as you affectionately nicknamed me.