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Old 28-08-2008, 09:11 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

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To me, before I can obtain a proper closure of this chapter, I feel that I need to know how she felt about me, whether she had genuine feelings for me or am I just a carrot head to her.
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The feelings just felt so real and alive when I was with her.
Bro, there is not absolute truth in this world. Truth or lies, genuine feelings or not, the judge is in you. If you alone believe it, it is the greatest truth in this world. If you dun, no matter how much bros here say, you can't get your satisfaction. The only question is, like bro xyz said, how much help it will give you when you find that out.

Its like if you inherited a priceless Ming vase, and you know you're not going to sell it, what help does it give to you in knowing its value? Are you going to throw it away if it is just worth 1 dollar, or will you treasure it more if someone say it's worth 100 million? If you're not going to do anything after knowing the truth, why seek for it?

The question is not in its value, it is in deciding whether knowing the value can change your perception for it. Somehow, I believe that the reason why you want to know the answer to her feelings for you, is to give you some satisfaction that you've done well, that your feelings for her was worth it. In other words, its man's pride. In this relationship, you have given her a lot of your emotions and real feelings, it is normal to want to know the 'result' of your effort.

Taking the Ming Vase analogy again, your object of love will never be able to tell you how your 付出 means to her. Even if she do tell you, at this state you will find a lot of doubts in believing what you'll hear from her. So in the end, you might just be wasting time on a roundabout until you petrol runs out.

I dun really want to talk about what happened to both of you in Sg or whether it is KC trap. I think enough have been said, so whether you believe it or not, its up to you. To me, its what's gonna happen that determines how well you get over this.

I picked this portion of your posting out becos I believe from now on, this will take centre stage of your relationship with her. Believe me when I say that one of the major reasons of you continuing this relationship (from now on) is to seek out the truth on whether she is genuine to you. Along the way, you will be compelled to constantly test her, doubt her, listen to her explanations, believe her for a while, then when time goes, start feeling insecure again and start another cycle of testing her. Common things are like, why mobile is off, why you never sms me, where you went, etc.

To continue with her, it will all boil down to one word, trust. If you believe she is trustworthy, go on and continue the relationship. If you find it hard to trust her, pls help yourself first. No amount of assurance can give you the ability to comfortably trust her, it will be a painful and draining process. As to how to trust, it is not in knowing where she was, who she meet, what she's doing. It is in trusting her completely (knowing all of her past). It requires inhuman courage from you as well.

All I can say is, even if you take it to the best extreme and say that she really loves you and is now crying her heart out for you, what is your chance of you being with her? How about dropping the extreme to the worst case scenario, that she is indeed a high handed WL intending to cheat everything out of you, can you stand to LOSE everything?

Bro, pls think about it. Sorry if I've written in a fragmented manner but if you need clarification, just reply and I will explain. Take Care.
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Old 28-08-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

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Its voluntary bro.
Been there and the experience wasnt pleasant.
So, if i can, will do my best to pull those outta of such situations to save them the heartache that i went through
I really hope someone was there for me when this happened to me in March this year. So I'm also doing the same as bro DYBJ.
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Old 28-08-2008, 09:58 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

I m definitely not as wise as some of the bro here, esp bro DYBJ and bro Colins whose sharing has benefited many of us. Having just recovered from a bad patch myself, I guess I am partially qualified to offer my 2 cents advice.

I fully agree with bro Colins earlier post. You will definitely want to know if she genuine love you, or at least ever love you. And that is normal. No one wants to be cheated, especially emotionally. This is a pride issue, as mentioned by bro Colins. However, the fact is, knowing the truth doesn't offer any help at all. It only makes u feel better, that the relationship is mutual. But so what? Are u going to give up everything and be with her? No, of course, the price is too high! So even if she really love u like u do, the ending is the same. So why bother searching for the answer when it has no relevance to the conclusion? Why waste your time and energy on it?

Saying is easy, doing it is totally different. I know and many knew that as well as we have being there, done that. Sometimes, I feel that we man, or at least myself, are a bit selfish. When we bare our heart, we want the other party to do the same, so that we don't logi (lose out), even though we have nothing concrete to offer in the end.

I m a simple man with a simple mind (thats why fall into that KC trap la), and I would like to offer a differnt view to this matter. I m not able to analyse if this FL is a high hand girl or not. But lets say she is really moved by u and did genuine fall in love with u. I believe this will be a bigger problem for u than now. U will fall even deeper into the relationship to the extend that u might take drastic decision that will inevitable hurt many around u. Or even if u r able to come to your senses and decided to cut off the relationship, then both u and the FL will have to go thru the same kind of suffering but amplify by many times over. Either way, u lose!

So I share the view of many bro here that you shouldn't be bother to find out the answer as it offers little help. Let the healing process begin, don't be in denial.

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Old 28-08-2008, 10:51 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

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I am sorry if I did pour some cold water to some bros here.

Do you guys know when your WL gf reaches their China airports their husband or bf will fetch them in airport & drive them home.
Most of the WL here working have husband or bf back in their hometown.

I know of some WLs who conned money & jewellery from average joe & ah seah kias here (both single & married men)
go back laughing at us they even use the money earn here to help their husband, bfs or true love back their hometown.

Hope by reading what I said ..will lesser your pain after sending to Changi Airport.
well bro, regarding tis, l kind of agree wif u too...l oso believe they mite hav husbands or bf in their hometown. very high chance.

one of my frenz did highlite to me abt tis, he say, u like them, yea, and most of the gals we like are pretty and nice one, he then say, u tink in her hometown, no guys woo them mehs since they so pretty and nice?

bro sumtime l wonder u got any sad case before wif WL anot? Cos to me, fro the time l join sbf till now, u jus give me the impression tat u are very firm and straight wif these gals. haha, but l guess tat is how ur nick comes by. u break the hearts of ladies, not the ladies break ur heart.
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Old 28-08-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

Bros,

WL ARE HERE TO FIND MONEY, NOT LOVE!!!

Please get this instilled in your mind and never waver or doubt it, or else you just asking for it! Forget about finding the truth etc...cos THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!

There's no pretty woman scenario here, they dun need a knight in shining armour to save them. They have seen more pricks than we have seen pussies, what makes you think you are special? Their country no good man available, comes all the way here and met you? Destiny? Fate? Please lah!!!

Calling you lao gong, telling you they enjoy being with you, you different from the rest etc etc dun mean anything! Just part of thier KC to reel you in! Makes you feel special so easier for the kill. Dun tell me they dun ask for money. They also knows we not 3 years old kid. Ask directly will not work. They will have their ways to twist and turn and eventually, you still kwai kwai give them money. Crap! Crap! Crap!

Once they get you hanging by the balls they'll milk you for all you're worth.If you think you're smart and not fall into their trap, please think again. The over confidence will be your peril.

If they willingly spend time with you and no $ involved, fair enough maybe still got slight chance it's real. Other than that, you can forget it!

We shoud be the ones with the upper hand, we are paying the $ and so many WL for you to choose. Be a player, implement the rule of the 3Fs.

But if you still wanna play romeo then all I can say is, I wish you best of luck.
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Old 28-08-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

if no KC me and still ask me to top up her hp, how leh?
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Re: Tears For A PRC Prostitute

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Bros,

WL ARE HERE TO FIND MONEY, NOT LOVE!!!

Please get this instilled in your mind and never waver or doubt it, or else you just asking for it! Forget about finding the truth etc...cos THIS IS THE TRUTH!!!

There's no pretty woman scenario here, they dun need a knight in shining armour to save them. They have seen more pricks than we have seen pussies, what makes you think you are special? Their country no good man available, comes all the way here and met you? Destiny? Fate? Please lah!!!

Once they get you hanging by the balls they'll milk you for all you're worth.If you think you're smart and not fall into their trap, please think again. The over confidence will be your peril.

We shoud be the ones with the upper hand, we are paying the $ and so many WL for you to choose. Be a player, implement the rule of the 3Fs.

But if you still wanna play romeo then all I can say is, I wish you best of luck.
Agree in some ways lah...but rem KC does not mean love

So u can still have KC and be friends so as long as u not looking for a life-partner, why not?

Juz treat it as a long distance QQ Penpal lah... hahaha

But when it comes to love, u need to be firm. Sometimes, u will get lost and believe that there can be a future as Husband and Wife but usually it is unlikely 9.9999/10 times. Esp if they are country gals who u cannot communicate with on an mental level.

I have a PRC friend, she is 24 and ask me "If earthquake, does it mean there will be a hole in the ground?".. Such I cannot stand 'coz I need intellectual conversations

If u dun need that, then perhaps u have a wee bit more chance of it working out
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Old 28-08-2008, 11:49 PM
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Agree in some ways lah...but rem KC does not mean love

So u can still have KC and be friends so as long as u not looking for a life-partner, why not?
I agree with this, but the nature of KC trap is to make it look like love, cos its much more powerful than friendship. The difference is in the INTENTION of the WL in knowing you. If she intend to find friends, she will treasure you as friend, means in terms of money and favours, the account is clear.

Yes we can always be friends, but we still need to apply the same caution as per WL lovers.

Hahaha... I thought the 'during an earthquake means there will be holes in the ground' question is in general, quite correct?
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if no KC me and still ask me to top up her hp, how leh?
Then its up to you liao, got kc or no kc. Its your money.
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if no KC me and still ask me to top up her hp, how leh?
Sorry bro, it means that when she KC other guys by showing them she doesn't need their money, she knows she can count on you to support her statement.

To find out what a WL think of you, just stop your favours to them. They will either forget your existence, or make sure you wanna forget your own existence.

Applicable to your case only.
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Agree in some ways lah...but rem KC does not mean love

So u can still have KC and be friends so as long as u not looking for a life-partner, why not?

Juz treat it as a long distance QQ Penpal lah... hahaha
Sure bro,

I also agree with what you say. Can be friends as long as not taken for a ride.

Can play KC games with them too, just offer KC in return
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To find out what a WL think of you, just stop your favours to them. They will either forget your existence, or make sure you wanna forget your own existence.
Well said...if they stil hanging around you, means they can't resist your tongue-fu or your big stick.
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well bro, regarding tis, l kind of agree wif u too...l oso believe they mite hav husbands or bf in their hometown. very high chance.

one of my frenz did highlite to me abt tis, he say, u like them, yea, and most of the gals we like are pretty and nice one, he then say, u tink in her hometown, no guys woo them mehs since they so pretty and nice?

bro sumtime l wonder u got any sad case before wif WL anot? Cos to me, fro the time l join sbf till now, u jus give me the impression tat u are very firm and straight wif these gals. haha, but l guess tat is how ur nick comes by. u break the hearts of ladies, not the ladies break ur heart.
hi bro .. what I know is PRC WL from Dongbei is willingly to feed their men and recognise them as real bf despite the Northern men being useless & most of these WL also have a permanent married man bf in S'pore who buy things & give them money. That good enough.

I would think that PRC WL still like & prefer their China men despite frequent being beaten up by them.

Well ..mi do not have any sad cases to share here. The only one is just like other bros had experience here my WL go back to China
then I felt pain but recover less than a week because in my heart all these WL are trashes.

I will never love them even in the KC game but only give them false hopes to ensure we have a good ECA outing.
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hi bro .. what I know is PRC WL from Dongbei is willingly to feed their men and recognise them as real bf despite the Northern men being useless & most of these WL also have a permanent married man bf in S'pore who buy things & give them money. That good enough.

I would think that PRC WL still like & prefer their China men despite frequent being beaten up by them.

Well ..mi do not have any sad cases to share here. The only one is just like other bros had experience here my WL go back to China
then I felt pain but recover less than a week because in my heart all these WL are trashes.

I will never love them even in the KC game but only give them false hopes to ensure we have a good ECA outing.
Personally I think this statement is too harsh and discriminating.
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Personally I think this statement is too harsh and discriminating.
This is real hard facts of life
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