Tears For A PRC Prostitute

[lovemachine]

Originally Posted by ekemono

Bro,

Just in case.....

FYI, in terms of love-relationship, some SG gals can be worse than other nationalities. Never ever use a SG gal as a yardstick.

In terms of earning a living here; while the ability to do so is one matter, but the ability to manage one's spending is another matter.

NOTE: my comment carries no offence to bros with SG GF or OC, but is base purely on my personal experiences.

hi ekemono,

thanks for your note and no offense here. as im born and brought up here, its easy for me to use a sg girl as a yardstick but i dun really have a preference for any particular nationality. at the end of the day it still boils down to dollars and cents though i personally prefer to marry someone from my own race. i have had a mainland chinese girlfrind during my uni days and shes like any normal sg girls - except that shes gentler.

as for earning a living, honestly if i have an income high enough, i prefer my wife not to work (or work just for fun). as such its dollars and cents.

like it or not, alot of things boil down to money actually. and its our job as men to work and bring the dough back, otherwise, we will have to face a lot of trade offs here and there.

[lovemachine]

Originally Posted by X_plorer

Bro ekemono,

You are damn right.. That's why i didn't maried a sg gal.. They must be thinking they are so great.. A lot of SG gals out there just looking for 5 Cs husband and bf, people with high end cars, how many of them are really earning high income, whereas these sg gals they themselves are earning not very high income.. But 1 important things is, not all the sg gals, but i would say quite a lot, especially office gals, and those working in big organisation, thinking they are very big but in fact nothing to boost about.. Even they are manager, supervisor, so what unless they are the CEO, VP etc.. so their circle of friends also not the same, in fact the higher their position, they are not looking upon 5 Cs, but in fact true love.

Previously when i just finished my studies and awaiting for NS, i also kena this kind of gals. I really remember 1 phrase which she told me till now.. At that time, i was driving my dad's old car as he change a new car already. I've been fetching her to and fro work everyday, and bloody shit, she work in Raffles Place, the ERP charges can kill liao.. After a period of time, my car was sold away, as it is also near to scap. Then i told her i will pick her up in a van, but she said dun ever drive this kind of vehicle to fetch her. After broke up, quite a period of time later. I drove my friend new Merc and call her. She was shock when i picked her up, she thought that i bought, and immdiately that next day called me up to pick her for a ride..

Till date now, i still remember this which really boost my morale and finally made a bit of results in my career life, even if I'm able to afford a BMW or whatever car, it doesn't matters. Anyway if the car can brings me from Pt a to Pt B, that's it. But of course a more decent car on the road.. But anyway, i just sold my normal car and change to a weekend car.. See no purpose to drive, but having a weekend car to standby just in case. Taking MRT could be a enjoyable process, got so many pretty gals to look at..

Thanks to her that i able to climd up to this stage, though not a very high income, but able to feed my family, buy my car, and house later all by myself, i think that should be enough for me. Leading a normal life with no financial stress is good enough liao..

hi xplorer, just wondering which country does your wife hails from? care to share exp in terms of problems/cultural differences?

For me, for sg girls, i reckon there are 1 pretty one for every 30 sggirls. and probably the same ratio for rich guys. but dun forget, there are quite a lot of rich guys who fuck and throw, i know many of my friends who do just that and many girls who fall for this. At the end of the day, there is no free lunch, sg girls who are only pretty but expect a easy ticket in life by hitching up a rich guy aint gonna have it easy, for those rich guys have high expectations, a pretty face only isnt going to go far - everyone will age eventually.

i know many pretty girls in the late 20s who got dumped and with time against them, they realised that if they want a happy marriage, they need to find a guy who is serious about them and they dun have much choices either.

For the best advice for guys, esp those like me in the early or mid twenties is that unless you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth, the best way out is to work hard and smart and get $$$. In the meantime, no point getting into relationships (unless you lower your expectations).

Make Vitamin M. Unless we get lucky with a girl who really appreciate us, else its best not to bang on luck alone.

For me, the appeal of commercial sex is the ability to pay, fuck and go. No strings attached. But after a long while its getting boring cos i always get this empty feeling after boning something commercially.

Not matter how pretty the face is, how great the body is, how erotic the bj,pj,hj,fj is, it ends there. Period.

After a while, i start to yearn for a serious relationship but heck, reality will set in as the society measure a men's worth by his wealth. For those who argue that character counts, its my personal belief that most people are good in nature. And so long as you are responsible towards your loved ones - family and friends - i noticed a lot of bastards (who are family loving) do get away doing fuck up things.

Anyway we all only live once. "It's My Life!"

[colins]

Wah Bro lovemachine, looks like you've really done your homework! Good points there.

BTW you do get more empty feeling after going into relationship with WL. Guess its a matter of settling which things first.

[slider_72]

Actually for me, having cheonged over the past decade and a half, I get that empty feeling after each cheonging session. It was begining to feel like a waste of time, money and energy on my part, plus it was starting to get boring.

Recently I met a PRC WL and did the unthinkable; I fell for her. We went out on dates a couple of times. The usual "pak tor" thingy like driving up to Mt Faber at night, go jalan jalan along Orchard, go Geylang late at night to buy fruits, etc. It felt so sweet, just like when I was dating my CO in the past.

Alas, I have a CO so it is impossible for me to develop things further with my PRC "gf". She knows that too. Also, she is here on social visit pass and will soon go back to her home country. There is no delusion between us that this is but a temporary summer love affair.

I bought some small gifts for her but these are not expensive stuff and certainly within my means. I gave her a sum of money earlier (again an amount which is within my means) and told her that in future, if we do ever proceed to make love again, I do not want to de-mean our relationship by paying her each time we do it. On the one hand, I feel that paying her for sex makes our relationship feel so commercial but on the other hand, I do not want to short-change her or use her feelings to get free sex. I know it is a paradox but some issues in life are just so complicated.

Perhaps I am going through a mid-life crisis. Anyway, I think I shall stop cheonging altogether once she goes back in September.

The beautiful memories I have of the times we spent together will forever remain. Just like that TV ad which says "bu zai hu tian chang di jiu, zi zai hu cheng jin yong you."

Sigh, if only polygamy is allowed here in Singapore...

[aces68]

Originally Posted by colins

Wah Bro lovemachine, looks like you've really done your homework! Good points there.

BTW you do get more empty feeling after going into relationship with WL. Guess its a matter of settling which things first.

Yes, i agree..commercial sex feels empty after the deed is done .
That's why whenever i find a WL who can click emotionally with me, I always RTF her.
I guess some bros may say that this is KC trap, but personally I don't mind as having some KC is better than feeling empty...as long as it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket.

[glooper83]

Originally Posted by lovemachine

hi, i have thought about all these and spoken to her about these while we were together too:

1. As a guy, its really crazy to fall for a pro (my thinking before meeting her) but this has subsided after knowing her as a person. but i cant promise myself that i wouldnt bring this up during a quarrelled. and honestly im pretty MCP, this has been a stumbling block in our r/s

2. she no longer go for luxury stuff now, i have seen her wardrobe but she does "ka" her other customers for gifts and money. this im not worried.

3. i have told her that with her education and her inability to speak english, she cant do any work here. she told me if we were to get married, she has enough to start a small shop and do what she wants. her main priorities is to stash aside 1m rmb, she already has a small apartment in Jilin for her parents fully paid up and a small shop selling cloths in harbin. so financially she claims she is fairly ok.

for life long partner, honestly i now believe she does like me but the chances are very very slim. i mean culture wise we are very very different and im just a normal middle class singaporean - and i believe i can get a decent singaporean girl (my first preference) and for this, im really unsure as even before i met her, i was more concerned about my career to worry about women, but her looks and femininity won me over.

I really feel you got something going here... It seems to be really a two-way relationship. The ultimate test for any relationship i guess would be time. Personally, i feel that any relationship less than one year is still in the honeymoon phase, and when cracks appear after that it would be very painful. Thx for the warning too! Will take note of it carefully.

[thunter]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Just like that TV ad which says "bu zai hu tian chang di jiu, zi zai hu cheng jin yong you."

what is that sentence in chinese characters please?

[colins]

Originally Posted by thunter

what is that sentence in chinese characters please?

不在乎天长地久 只在乎曾经拥有

[X_plorer]

Originally Posted by lovemachine

hi xplorer, just wondering which country does your wife hails from? care to share exp in terms of problems/cultural differences?

For me, for sg girls, i reckon there are 1 pretty one for every 30 sggirls. and probably the same ratio for rich guys. but dun forget, there are quite a lot of rich guys who fuck and throw, i know many of my friends who do just that and many girls who fall for this. At the end of the day, there is no free lunch, sg girls who are only pretty but expect a easy ticket in life by hitching up a rich guy aint gonna have it easy, for those rich guys have high expectations, a pretty face only isnt going to go far - everyone will age eventually.

i know many pretty girls in the late 20s who got dumped and with time against them, they realised that if they want a happy marriage, they need to find a guy who is serious about them and they dun have much choices either.

For the best advice for guys, esp those like me in the early or mid twenties is that unless you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth, the best way out is to work hard and smart and get $$$. In the meantime, no point getting into relationships (unless you lower your expectations).

Make Vitamin M. Unless we get lucky with a girl who really appreciate us, else its best not to bang on luck alone.

For me, the appeal of commercial sex is the ability to pay, fuck and go. No strings attached. But after a long while its getting boring cos i always get this empty feeling after boning something commercially.

Not matter how pretty the face is, how great the body is, how erotic the bj,pj,hj,fj is, it ends there. Period.

After a while, i start to yearn for a serious relationship but heck, reality will set in as the society measure a men's worth by his wealth. For those who argue that character counts, its my personal belief that most people are good in nature. And so long as you are responsible towards your loved ones - family and friends - i noticed a lot of bastards (who are family loving) do get away doing fuck up things.

Anyway we all only live once. "It's My Life!"

Hey Bro Lovemachine,

My wife hails from Vietnam. As for cultural wise, i would say their thinking and our thinking is totally not the same, they are very very possesive type, if you are striving for your career, it is quite tough to have a possesive wife, this is what I've been through, but unluckily i still able to strive out a career path for myself but not an easy path in my career road and still have to settle my wife also.. It had been countless quarrel and till almost divorce even have baby.. It really takes a very very long time and difficulties to make them understand our culture. Though we are more financially rich then them but we work for it.. There is nothing call free lunch and we have to strive for what we need, not god's sending.. I would say their culture and living standard doesn't really makes them to work hard or think the same as us..

I would say most of the bros who have Viet wife also encounter this problems. I would say culture and character differences..

I totally agreed for what you have say.. Commercial sex can only brings in sextifaction but not the feel that you want, the feel that you need.. Making Vitamin M is important but also cannot forget personal relationship. It might be a pushing factor to make you work hard for your Vitamin M..

All that we are going through is part and aprcel of life that we individuals are going through different patches.. So we have to accept it but in the other hand, we also have to work hard for our own happiness...

[Darkstorm]

Originally Posted by X_plorer

Hey Bro Lovemachine,

My wife hails from Vietnam. As for cultural wise, i would say their thinking and our thinking is totally not the same, they are very very possesive type, if you are striving for your career, it is quite tough to have a possesive wife, this is what I've been through, but unluckily i still able to strive out a career path for myself but not an easy path in my career road and still have to settle my wife also..

Hi,

mind if I ask how long did it take you to learn to speak Vietnamese? What methods did you find best for learning the language?

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by X_plorer

Hey Bro Lovemachine,

My wife hails from Vietnam. As for cultural wise, i would say their thinking and our thinking is totally not the same, they are very very possesive type, if you are striving for your career, it is quite tough to have a possesive wife, this is what I've been through, but unluckily i still able to strive out a career path for myself but not an easy path in my career road and still have to settle my wife also.. It had been countless quarrel and till almost divorce even have baby.. It really takes a very very long time and difficulties to make them understand our culture.

I agreed with you on this bro.
for me, my viet gf stays with me. As these few days busy with work project solving problem clearing piles of shits, did not called back to check on her. Then she angry and insist that I would surely have a few mins to call, and translated my actions to be not loving her anymore. I didn't pick a quarrel with her, just talk nicely and let her cool down. It's an issue I need to resolve

[monster.cookie]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Actually for me, having cheonged over the past decade and a half, I get that empty feeling after each cheonging session. It was begining to feel like a waste of time, money and energy on my part, plus it was starting to get boring.
Sigh, if only polygamy is allowed here in Singapore...

Yo bro slider, there are many people in your situation among my circle of friends. All chiong so many years and tasted so many chicks till chionging is monotonous. Invariably, they will start getting attached to certain WLs ot KTV chicks. I even heard one guy declaring that he wants to have a baby with his gf in Mainland China ( Hei s married with kids in Singapore btw).

I personally also been trapped in this kind of thing but escaped quite unscathed. I have evaluated and concluded ...

First we start chionging. Our COs become angry. We start quarrelling. We talk less. We get intimate less. Physical need pushes us out to chiong more. Chiong too many years till u consider any girls over 25 is "lao cai" since 18s and 20s are flying in everyday in the Boeings from every part of the world. Satisfying physical need not enough liao, want to find the feeling of being loved again. BOOM!!! Someone takes our fancy and feelings grow. Before long, you start telling yourself "This was how it was went i first met my wife!"

Eventually, like the TS mentioned, not many make it to the finishing lines. In our case, there never was a finishing line since we have a family. It is just running for the sake of running.

Now when i start thinking like that, I find myself spending more time with my CO altho i still chiong ktv for work. Rediscovering can sometimes be as fun as discovering.

To Bro TS,

with so much inside scoop, you should consider writing a non fiction novel. Cfm sell man!! Anyways, at your 20s and single, this kind of experience is invaluable. 刻骨铭心的爱. Confirm you will remember this forever.

Cheers!

[slider_72]

DAMN!!! Bro Monster.Cookie, I think you have just hit the nail squarely on its head!!! I was nodding my head to every single sentence you wrote in your last post. Including the married with kids part.

The idea of re-discovery is I think, the best advice I read so far in this forum.

In my quiet moments, I too think that this relationship with my "gf" is absurb. There is absolutely zero possibility of a happy ending. I often question myself what the hack am I doing. Notwithstanding the fact that I am fully aware that I am running into a wall, I can't seem to stop myself from speeding up.

Fortunately I can share it on this forum and find an outlet for my frustration. A million thanks to the bros who read my posts and replied.

[monster.cookie]

Bro slider,

dont mention it. I think many bros share the same problems.

And the girls...oh my god...good looking, fair skin, sweet talking, playful, adventurous, shy. Knn like secondary school sian IJ girls like that. How not to die...

My most unforgettable one is a full time zookeeper and part time ktv hostess in Beijing. Till today cannot tell whether she is true or not. Everytime i fly to china last time, definitely buy her domestic ticket to join me. For almost 1 year. I was even getting stupid thoughts then of how to get out of marriage so that I can be wif her...haha. Now think back, knn deserve a kick in my nuts!

Live a day, learn a day. I hope not to fall into similar traps i set for myself anymore.

Cheers!

[monster.cookie]

Originally Posted by ekemono

I agreed with you on this bro.
for me, my viet gf stays with me.

Bro Ekemono,

that trait is quite international la. Not specific to Vietnamese ladies. My SG wife after so many years still like that.

One lau lau jiao once advised me. He say no matter how tired, busy, in love with your mistress you are, always make a call home just to ask them how they are and how their day was. A 5 minute call will bring you mileage beyond your belief. They just need to 'bluff' themself that their man always have them in mind.

Practiced that for years and i am a true believer now!

Cheers