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Old 09-07-2010, 09:57 PM
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Just a thought I have - is it that important whether she has? Or does that change the value proposition?
Value is relative I guess....just like what my agent says...can you give me sole exclusive or you do multiple listings....after cheonging so long...it's not longer fun to use purely money to give what you want....

Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf... so probably I just keep her as a normal fren on off...as I simply do not have the time to woo her as a gf just to fuck her... unless other brudders have better ideas...
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:02 PM
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I really envy most of u guys out there.. can cheong with huge buget.. bao gals like nobody bussiness.. but too bad.. me poor man.. can only cheong within my own means.. I just have to be contended with what i have loh.
Actually I don't cheong with a huge budget....and just go for normal HH deals but even then I think over the past few years it does add up to a big sum...I often read of how many save up to have a million dollars....by not driving car...not wasting money on this and that... to me that's not life... what's the point of earning money if you do not live to enjoy it...but I make it a point to invest and set aside a few k a month...so that I can hopefully be as rich as bro WB at his age and just live off his divendends....Bro WB if you can share with me how's your passive income and how you derive them it would be much appreciated.
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:36 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf...
Ha ha, as I just wrote about in TAM thread, exact same thing just happened to me! I plan to continue to see her 'as a friend' as you put it to see if I can wear her down, but she's pretty practical, unlikely to succeed.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:31 PM
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Ha ha, as I just wrote about in TAM thread, exact same thing just happened to me! I plan to continue to see her 'as a friend' as you put it to see if I can wear her down, but she's pretty practical, unlikely to succeed.
ok la...i send her home a few times before...and I wanted to suggest that I send her to hotel rendevous today instead but don't think she will react well to that...hahaha....this one damn hard...I had to wear her down just to la chee her... she will only let me hug and kiss on the cheeks only... knn... so how to wear her down?....or suggest to her boldly how much she want and up the ante at 1k first? but 1k can fuck other gers ard 4 times....
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:25 AM
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Can't be 100% sure....but a mixture of observation, tracking and gut feel....and though my brotherly contacts sometimes... I do know quite alot of girls at the DC/CJ/MC complex who have gone out before and is usually not interested by these easy fucks...I suppose it's though my judgement of persons though years of experience in cheonging...but then again like you I had only about 3-4 years of experience so still lots to learn! But that's the fun...life is a learning process!
You're more experienced as I hv BY-ed gals for only one yr.

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Just a thought I have - is it that important whether she has? Or does that change the value proposition?
Not tat important but I may be willing to pay a bit more if I know for sure. We men want gals who r hard to get. What is much more important is tat her pussy is exclusively mine during the BY-ing period.

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Well, if she is still in the business when you are here, I'd introduce her to you. I have not kept in contact with her ever since that last KTV visit.

My relationship with my OC has gone through 15 years of ups and downs. It is grounded on the fact that I treat her well and pamper her, but at the same time made it clear that she cannot control me at all, due to my character and personality. I'm the type who's 吃软不吃硬。
Ok, ths.

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Actually I don't cheong with a huge budget....and just go for normal HH deals but even then I think over the past few years it does add up to a big sum...I often read of how many save up to have a million dollars....by not driving car...not wasting money on this and that... to me that's not life... what's the point of earning money if you do not live to enjoy it...but I make it a point to invest and set aside a few k a month...so that I can hopefully be as rich as bro WB at his age and just live off his divendends....Bro WB if you can share with me how's your passive income and how you derive them it would be much appreciated.
You're too modest, bro. From wat I hv read in ur posts, you're getting all the pussies u need...wat more could a man want?

I only hv a little money, just enuff to BY some PRC gals. I hv had some winning streaks...for now they r generating enuff passive income for my very modest lifestyle.

"Some examples of passive income are:

* Earnings from a business that does not require direct involvement from the owner or merchant;
* Rent from property;
* Royalties from publishing a book or from licensing a patent or other form of intellectual property;
* Earnings from internet advertisements on websites;
* Residual income, repeated regular income earned by a sales person, generated from the payment of a product or service, that must be renewed on a regular basis in order to continue receiving its benefits;
* Dividend and interest income from owning securities, such as stocks and bonds, is usually referred to as portfolio income, which may or may not be considered a form of passive income.
* Pensions."


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Old 11-07-2010, 05:00 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Always a delight to hear your points of view...btw hope you don't mind me sometimes deviating from the main topic to make it more interesting...

Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:05 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...
Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:18 PM
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Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!
Yeah...feel abit tired of all these....time to retire....just go for transactional when i feel like it...focus on more impt things in life...or is this the most impt?
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:28 AM
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Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf... so probably I just keep her as a normal fren on off...as I simply do not have the time to woo her as a gf just to fuck her... unless other brudders have better ideas...
do not persue on this target.
By ur comments, its exactly wat they use primarily to earn money.
That is 希望计 N by ur comments above, you already 拥抱希望 Already!
Big no no bro
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Always a delight to hear your points of view..........
Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...
Thank u for bringing up the question of passive income. Actually there r many subjects more interesting than pussies, hehehe.

Yes, like many men, I get bored w/ most pussies rather quickly, after only a few sessions or 1 wk.

According to Mr. Austin the Great, the cardinal rule is to pay ur mistress weekly. This rule has saved me some money, although I might hv missed 3 pussies who hv refused to budge. I now tell them, weekly payment or no deal. I explain that I can't move too much cash around w/o detection, not becos I dun trust them, hehehe.

Of the many BAO-ees I hv had, only 2 hv lasted more than 1 month. One for 2 1/2 months (she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student from her hometown) n another for just over 1 month (she returned to PRC).

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Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!
I must be a very complex person. I like a variety of pussies n I get bored quickly w/ the same ones, but on the other hand, I enjoy the strong GFE, companionship n KC that r present in a longer term BYs. Of course KC is risky n must be controlled. I also want to improve my skills of giving some of them COS which may be meaningless if it's ST.

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Yeah...feel abit tired of all these....time to retire....just go for transactional when i feel like it...focus on more impt things in life...or is this the most impt?
I often feel the same way. I want to hv a steady longer term mistress n eat outside occasionally.

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do not persue on this target.
By ur comments, its exactly wat they use primarily to earn money.
That is 希望计 N by ur comments above, you already 拥抱希望 Already!
Big no no bro
move on to the next
Excellent advice from Mr. Austin the Great.

This gal is manipulative n playing hard to get. She may want to be BAO-ed at above market rate. Need to move on to the next target...sometimes it can be difficult if u are enamored w/ her.

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Good morning! What a wonderful day!!

A few days ago I saw a gal which reminded me of the following words from esteemed bro Marc5:

"Inside me I constantly feel that there are better ones available, somewhere, somehow. It is a strange response, I know. In many instances, my buddies were astonished by my rejection on the gal because they felt she was just perfect. The feeling of someone else is better is always present. “别人比较好” – sounds familiar?"

In addition to the above sentiment, I like to add that a gal who is very hard to get or who is beyond my reach is most desirable n attractive.

Back to the gal I saw. I first sighted her a couple of wks ago while she was walking w/ her female fren outside the DC complex. She disappeared quickly in the crowd...I had been to KTVs at DC complex a few times but never saw her inside. Nor outside again.

Then I saw her a few days ago. She was w/o make up, wearing a white blouse, jeans n flat shoes, abt 21-22, 170-171 n 53-54 kg, very chio n cute to me, w/ fair skin, proportionate body, beautiful shapely butt. And quite long n slender arms, OMG! She was carrying several plastic bags full of clothings n walking towards a car. She smiled at a middle-aged n very short man waiting beside a small nondescript car. She got inside the car...

I guess she was moving to a new place closer to the man who was obviously her BAO-er.

My frustration is that I never had a chance to meet her n make my offer. It's OK if I pursued her n lost to a better man.

How attractive is she to ME, based solely on her looks n figure? I would gladly forget n give up ALL my former n current BAO-ees if I could keep her as my mistress. And I would keep her for as long as she wants...IMHO, she is worth 30K a month.

Of course, it's entirely possible that she could turn out to be a disappointment if I really got to taste her pussy, for a no. of reasons. It has happened to me before.

It would make me feel much better if the man who picked her up was only a coolie who was taking her to a big towkay, hehehe.

Ths for reading n hv a great day!

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Of the many BAO-ees I hv had, only 2 hv lasted more than 1 month. One for 2 1/2 months (she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student from her hometown) n another for just over 1 month (she returned to PRC).
have you run into the issue of say LV girls knowing of your 'reputation' of BY'ing a relatively short time, in a way that impedes your pursuit of targets? I presume you run into your ex'es there quite often (or they just see you as they pass by your room, darn those big glass windows!), which has happened to me. I have had some MMs describe other customers and say "oh he wants to be my bf but other girls tell me he'll just say that and dump you after one night", so I presume there is some amount of discussion going on amongst them.

I'm lucky if I can meet my BY as many as 3x in a week, usually it's less, so that's probably one reason I don't get as bored as quickly. The main reason for lasting several months though is the increasing GFE effect one gets over time ... until I want a change of course!

One advantage of a singer gf is that you can hunt at KTVs without her knowing. As I prefer TAM building when she's from there, she basically knows and then one has to set the stage or just deal with the arguing. I know, I know, I need to be more cold-hearted!
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Good advice from Mr Austins and WB Bro...I must be more ruthless and clinical...afterall...i think end of the day...these girls are out to earn money...I have no met any who would be with you unconditionally....anyone had the experience? would be out of this world I think...

And yes...sometimes I would reject a girl but when I saw her sitting with my frens...suddenly I would wonder how come I rejected her...wasted chance...but sometimes my fren end up don't like so i would fast hand fast leg cobroke over...hahahaha...the pussy is always tighter on the other side!
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Good advice from Mr Austins and WB Bro...I must be more ruthless and clinical...afterall...i think end of the day...these girls are out to earn money...I have no met any who would be with you unconditionally....anyone had the experience? would be out of this world I think...

And yes...sometimes I would reject a girl but when I saw her sitting with my frens...suddenly I would wonder how come I rejected her...wasted chance...but sometimes my fren end up don't like so i would fast hand fast leg cobroke over...hahahaha...the pussy is always tighter on the other side!
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have you run into the issue of say LV girls knowing of your 'reputation' of BY'ing a relatively short time, in a way that impedes your pursuit of targets?............ I have had some MMs describe other customers and say "oh he wants to be my bf but other girls tell me he'll just say that and dump you after one night", so I presume there is some amount of discussion going on amongst them.
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One advantage of a singer gf is that you can hunt at KTVs without her knowing. As I prefer TAM building when she's from there, she basically knows and then one has to set the stage or just deal with the arguing. I know, I know, I need to be more cold-hearted!
Yes, I hv encountered such a problem. There is a certain mummy who has this erroneous impression that I change BAO-ees every 2 wks n that I like to BY 2-3 gals at the same time. Absolutely not true. I like to set the record straight.

Actually, I hv kept a 3rd gal for 1 full month. She wants to return on student visa n has posted her latest pics on qq to tempt me, hehehe. She is a 20 yo tall SYT w/ long n slender arms, but I'm not sure I want her this visit bcos visa may take 1 month n I'm leaving...besides w/ student visa she can't go back n forth so easily. Maybe get her on my next visit?

BTW, there is a gal finally coming next wk, after much delay, n I hv promised to keep her for 1 yr!! She will be in SIN only when I'm here. She is not young at 23 going on 24, but is 170-171 n 53 kg n yes, very long n slender arms. She has exquisite pussy which can rival my avatar's.

I need to hv more dominant self mastery n learn from Mr. Austin the Great n the young bro LDH n be able to bring my 2 BAO-ees under one roof. It saves lots of time n money...maybe I can even give both of them COS simultaneously w/ one precious ejaculation!

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Good advice from Mr Austins and WB Bro...I must be more ruthless and clinical...afterall...i think end of the day...these girls are out to earn money...I have no met any who would be with you unconditionally....anyone had the experience? would be out of this world I think...

And yes...sometimes I would reject a girl but when I saw her sitting with my frens...suddenly I would wonder how come I rejected her...wasted chance...but sometimes my fren end up don't like so i would fast hand fast leg cobroke over...hahahaha...the pussy is always tighter on the other side!
I'm greatly flattered by ur mentioning of Mr Austin n me in the same sentence. But I'm merely an apprentice doing my best to improve my game of BY, whereas Mr. Austin is an accomplished master w/o peers. He is Cao Cao of BY-ing singers, hehehe.

Yeah, the pasture always seems greener on the other side. It has happened to me...

Cheers!

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Yes, I hv encountered such a problem. There is a certain mummy who has this erroneous impression that I change BAO-ees every 2 wks n that I like to BY 2-3 gals at the same time. Absolutely not true. I like to set the record straight.

Actually, I hv kept a 3rd gal for 1 full month. She wants to return on student visa n has posted her latest pics on qq to tempt me, hehehe. She is a 20 yo tall SYT w/ long n slender arms, but I'm not sure I want her this visit bcos visa may take 1 month n I'm leaving...besides w/ student visa she can't go back n forth so easily. Maybe get her on my next visit?

BTW, there is a gal finally coming next wk, after much delay, n I hv promised to keep her for 1 yr!! She will be in SIN only when I'm here. She is not young at 23 going on 24, but is 170-171 n 53 kg n yes, very long n slender arms. She has exquisite pussy which can rival my avatar's.

I need to hv more dominant self mastery n learn from Mr. Austin the Great n the young bro LDH n be able to bring my 2 BAO-ees under one roof. It saves lots of time n money...maybe I can even give both of them COS simultaneously w/ one precious ejaculation!

Cheers!



I'm greatly flattered by ur mentioning of Mr Austin n me in the same sentence. But I'm merely an apprentice doing my best to improve my game of BY, whereas Mr. Austin is an accomplished master w/o peers. He is Cao Cao of BY-ing singers, hehehe.

Yeah, the pasture always seems greener on the other side. It has happened to me...

Cheers!

Bro WB
While I greatly admire Cao Cao....I think we can learn from his mistakes too....sometimes you need to trust and gain trust...hehehe
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