Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[ndnd]

A place/country safe or not safe, not base on the population vs ppl infected. Coz no one will really know the actual no., as no place/country tested the whole nation.
Especially batam, what reported far from the real figure.
I will rather view on how the place/country handle the pandemic and how the ppl behave towards the pandemic.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by hendri2

Hope sinking ship and virus have some effect on them....we will see what they will pass end of August ...

For those buying house, becarful on the "Orang Legal" when applying KPR to bank. Many scam recently.

[hendri2]

Thanks, bro ndnd, what is KPR to bank? Foreigners can't get housing loan from bank?...

[hendri2]

Banks are not allowed to give property loan or car loan to foreigners...what are the scams ?

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by ndnd

Bro, remit from POSB apps. $0 fee.
If send on Mon - Fri, before 2pm
Same day received in Indonesia bank account.
Although rate not as high as money change, but zero fee. Still worth it.

Originally Posted by hawkeye007

Here’s a rough reference for you to see the approximate exchange rate that DBS/POSB will give you vs XE...

Like ndnd had shared, zero remittance fee and from the convenience of your own handphone. No need to go queue at Western Union and pay a remittance fee on top of the inconvenience...

Thks bro.

My finding on 29/7
XE. 10550
Ocbc 10308
Posb 10309
MoneyGram 10521 with $5 trf fee

I go for MoneyGram as the exchange
Rate was too good
After factor-in the $5 transfer fee...
Effectively I got 10507 and it's an immediate transfer..

Also noted that the transfer fee for Philippines peso just $2 only.

Think if I going Philippines I would try using it too.

[DBZhu]

(KPR) is a housing loan

Originally Posted by hendri2

Thanks, bro ndnd, what is KPR to bank? Foreigners can't get housing loan from bank?...

[hendri2]

Thanks DBZhu, bro....now no loan for foreigners.....let's hope end of this month, we will have some news.....

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by BFOMF5

Think the 1st priority when open ...
Must quickly go to get the Retirement Temporary Stay Permit(ITAS-Lansia)
As I look through the requirement this should be the easiest and simple path.

Huh? Got age limit or not? If have, then i might not be qualified.

Guess its useful for Batam stayer.

Originally Posted by ndnd

Now just wait for Pak Rudi to declare Batam as Green Zone and apply to Central Government to reopen Batam for tourist.
Once that happened, will be no more 14 days Quarantine in Batam, most is need to show a negative result for Covid-19 or swab test on the spot upon arrival. Slowly that can be excuse also..

Indonesian since weeks ago enter batam, no need quarantine, no need swab test, only fill up a health card, thats all, simple and easy..

Hmm...looks like the criteria for taking a plane within Indonesia and taking a ferry is a bit different.

I hear from the girls that taking a plane (domestic flight), compulsory need to do some covid PCR and/or swab test before they are allow in. And they need to pay for it. Cost can adds up to between 200k rupiah to 2.5 juta.

Writing those test off wont be a good thing but not writing that off, the airlines and its industry may have an economic impact.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by hendri2

Banks are not allowed to give property loan or car loan to foreigners...what are the scams ?

Ok this one need to type very long

Yes KPR is a process of housing loan.

There are many foreigners buying houses using their Wife/GF/Mistress's name. And most of these ladies are unemploy.
Base on what to take loan from Bank.
Bo tai bo chi bank give 650juta loan

KPR normally is 10-15years
650juta 15years installment will be around payment of 1m+.

So property agent will normally recommend a person so call "orang legal". He should be handling all necessary docuements and liaise with the bank loan department. The type of ppl usually have friend working in the bank. He will make up the 12 months payslip, employment letter, and even a "real" company position during the bank survey the "working place". All these is formality that need to submit to bank while taking loan and even the bank personal knew thats all faked. The loan will still be approved. Thats the duty of this "orang legal", of course buyer will need to pay him a fee.
Thats alright, coz he will do everything, buyer just sit song song wait for loan to approve.

What i mean scam is some so call "orang legal" who dont have connection with bank, but pretend to be have many contact with bank.
Asking for upfront full payment of the fee, and claim if loan not successful, will refund 80% of the fee. In the end just pass the buyer some print out salary slip, an employment letter but say he tried his best, too bad bank not approved and he go missing.

This could cause buyer to lose alot, coz before KPR, buyer need to pay a booking fee for the house. If KPR didnt get thru, buyer lose the "orang legal" fee and also the house booking fee. No refund on that.
Some agent will say yes at first, will refund if KPR not successful. But dont dream, the money wont be refunded.

[ndnd]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Hmm...looks like the criteria for taking a plane within Indonesia and taking a ferry is a bit different

Yes, if indonesian travel from spore to batam by ferry. No need quarantine and swab test.

If by flight, yes need swab test for their domestic travel.
And that swab result only valid for 14days. Once after 14days and wants to travel again. Need to test again.

This moment Batam hotel association is fighting for No Need Swab Test for domestic travel to batam. Requesting batam government to appeal to central government. Hotels in batam is dying fast. Since foreigner cant travel to batam, domestic traveller is their only hope. Hoping that without swab test for entry, will encourage more locals to go batam.
Recently a news stated for a family with 2 kids to domestic travel, swab test and results will cost 2-3juta. That make many local refused to travel.

Btw i believed after this covid-19 pandemic, Batam will have a New Era. you need to busy redo or update many info here. Many joints will close and sure new joints will open. Some maybe shifted and some may still have but change name. Recently one famous joint just officially declare bankrupt, close shop, the OKT sell house sell car.

[ndnd]

https://batampos.co.id/2020/08/02/10...itif-covid-19/

https://batampos.co.id/2020/08/01/pa...hnya-sekarang/

When can all these Indon local realize what is covid-19

New Normal for them is suicide

[hendri2]

Thank you so much , bro ndnd, for spending so much time for answering my question....hope there will be good news at end of the month...foreigners can get housing loan... !!!
Take care and stay safe, bro...

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Yes, it will be fun for now, how about after some time later, how do you plan to have sex in Batam? Wear a scuba diving suit and have sex in sea water?

Vaccine is the key solution, i guess (for those who hasnt gotta the virus). For now, its the virus versus me...and my girls,hehehe...

Like normal lor....lol

btw, aq start celebratin indo independence day last sat. hope 2 see ya & frens tere ya...

oh, almost 4got, happi belated sg independence day ya & all.



stay @ home , stay safe & healthy ya & all....lol



i celebrate my ownself way.

every year celebrate in btm, tis mus celebrate in sg...so sian, so us make it special a bit.

look like tis seventh mth hungry ghost mth cumin soon aso mus tio tiao in sg liao.

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by iicycold

Independence day last sat. hope 2 see ya & frens tere ya...
oh, almost 4got, happi belated sg independence day ya & all.

If that is the Indo style of "social distancing" and health precautions, I am afraid COVID will be still rampant in Indonesia for a long time.

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by Black Page

If that is the Indo style of "social distancing" and health precautions, I am afraid COVID will be still rampant in Indonesia for a long time.

no la, tat 1 no indo style of socialicing la....lol...it's sg nasional day parade few yrs ago pigture...i tink i got post it here b4.

tis 1 then is indo style....lol

Originally Posted by nono1973

15th of March in Batam, at Grand Batam Mall 1st floor...hehehe...

Notice the crowd? How pack it is with an ongoing event.

Oh, & btw, btm's good brother, bintan's resort close dwn liao....

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...id-19-outbreak

mani ppl kena jobless liao....