How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[michkim2]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

For havelock pricing, a PRC running table from HH to SH non stop can make 10k a month easy.
But she'll be tired to death.
Like what the Guru WB said, your 6-7k quite generous liaozzz plus she still works and not your back and call.
As for the part where she doesn't want to leave her jie mei's, it's so that she has lots of space to maneuver and they can be her alibis and you have no grounds to control or challenge them.
In future, be STRONG and be FIRM.
6-7k a month terms and conditions are:
1) No Work
2) Stand by by a place rented by me for activation
I leave the rest to the other bros to teach you.

Bro DYBJ,
Thanks for yr advice. I do not want to spoilt the market while am okay to pay if I am happy! Would probably do what bro WB's teaching and pay out as bonus if certain performance are met.

I had been paying way too much and I will learn. She is not even available some times like Fridays she claimed good KTV business!

Q1. If my future gal still want to work without ST, is it acceptable and if it is, what amount should I pay her 4-5k?
Q2. Would it be possible to insist on my new gal to move out?

Thanks again. Will try to find a new gal and hope to consult all of you before I close the deal. It is a transaction.

[michkim2]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Oldest trick in the book & never fails.
You: 你是谁的？
Her: 我是你的
You: 我是你的谁？
Her: 宝贝or男朋友or老公
You: 那我要你给我一个你没给过任何人的证明给我你是真的！
Works all the time!

Master DYBJ,
Wow. Excellent trick!

Will have to try it on my new gal liao! Have to find one first.

Maybe if my old gal begs me and I am in the mood, will try this move on her! No harm trying. Get what I want and move on.

Thanks.

[michkim2]

Originally Posted by warbird

Good afternoon to all samsters!

Hi bro michkim2,

Pls read the post by our true master, bro DUBJ aka Mr. chairman, below.

Recommendations? One man's meat is another man's poison.

It's strange that I know a few gals who r exceptionally pretty but hv A or A/B boobs, n they r all from Jiangsu.


Hi Mr. Chairman,

You're right on.

However, few men hv ur expertise n sexual mojo n may need to pay a bit more.

In my experience, popular Havelock gals who dun work usually demand 10-12K or more a month, subject to negotiation.

Fantastic n practical advice that can be used immediately. Of course must be said w/ assertiveness n confidence n w/ the voice n body language to match.

We should never be tentative n ask a gal's permission to do anything! But dun use brute force either!

Ths so much!

Isn't it great advice?

Cheers!

Bro WB,

Thanks for yr advice.

My ex-gal from DC is from Henan. If you are done with yr Jiangsu gals, can pm me their ctc? I like slim gals with B/C boobs and slim legs, about 162-165 range. Of course not more than 25yo but will consider if gal is real pretty.

Plan to go hunting around havelock area. Wish me luck.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by michkim2

Bro DYBJ,
Thanks for yr advice. I do not want to spoilt the market while am okay to pay if I am happy! Would probably do what bro WB's teaching and pay out as bonus if certain performance are met.

Performance bonus had to be met in STRICT conditions and there's no negotiations or leeway or any discount given.
Though $$$$$ is yours, make sure them earn their keep, not just because they allow you to insert your dicky dick into their mouths or swallow your spermy sperms.

Originally Posted by michkim2

I had been paying way too much and I will learn. She is not even available some times like Fridays she claimed good KTV business!

If I were you, I'd dump this bitch long long ago.
There is only 1 thing that will raise my alarm, someone has already BLOCKED all her friday nites!

Originally Posted by michkim2

Q1. If my future gal still want to work without ST, is it acceptable and if it is, what amount should I pay her 4-5k?

Like the laws of BY, once you BY someone, 4-5k is too little and she has to be KEPT at home legs spread waiting only for your DICK 24/7.
8-10k plus rental shud suffice.
No other way, allow any other scenarios and you'll only be wearing green hats.

Originally Posted by michkim2

Q2. Would it be possible to insist on my new gal to move out?

Not it isn't possible but instead, IT MUST be a MUST! A criteria of being BY by you else again, there will be too many blindspots and she'll have tons of ways, excuses & alibis to fuck around behind your back!

Originally Posted by michkim2

Thanks again. Will try to find a new gal and hope to consult all of you before I close the deal. It is a transaction.

Remember, the ART of control is that you want but you will not tolerate any form of negotiation from your requirements. If any of those arise, be prepared to drop it all and buy another piece of meat. Do not, because of a whore, bow your head to suit her.
No other way, else you'll just be a walking laughing stock!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by michkim2

Master DYBJ,
Wow. Excellent trick!

Will have to try it on my new gal liao! Have to find one first.

Maybe if my old gal begs me and I am in the mood, will try this move on her! No harm trying. Get what I want and move on.

Thanks.

Remember, the art must be combined wif self confidence, control & a ready to drop at any moment attitude.
If she die die refuse, just walk and dun turn back.
If she's desperate, not only you dun need to ask anymore, she'll actually suggest you to complete that deed.
Dun act desperate and dun nag & bitch about it, like i said, just walk and make sure she complies before you move on to the next chapter!

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro goodpartner,

What is ur mission ? To ST or BY her or to KC her?

Always Be Closing!

Ya, I saw that ABC and AIDI youtube clip and it's really extreme but funny and drives home the point I didn't do the closing part well...

My mission, I think (see, I actually don't know ) is to bed her eventually but like to enjoy the process/challenge before reaching the destination, knowing that she'll be here for at least 6 months. I'm just bored with the usual pay and farkoff thingy after being jaded chionging so much in the past.

So ya, just a "ST" thingy as the destination but don't mind playing KC. Maybe since she actually rejected that $1000 note (initially offered just the market rate) that make me more determine to get her for "free"... maybe that's what I'm thinking lor... Aiya, you know lah.

No, I'm not into BY any girl as I don't find it value for money on the surface... and that's maybe because I've not evaluate the pros/cons sufficiently.

So, for such girl where they seemingly do not "sell", what are the strategies?

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Very thin line to ponder on here.
Good is:
She's not someone who will salivate & drop the whole world and can't wait to go to bed cos of the dollar note

Bad is:
To show you thus have the intention to imprint an impression that she's someone who works for money but won't sell her body for money.

Wow... great to have inputs from another veteran!

True, I've considered that possibility that she's just hoping to put long line to hook big fish... I've all my force-shield up! Though I'm aware of how great man can fall too...

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Well, if you truly enjoy her company and companionship, then i feel its ok to like go out for makan wif a friend.
But, BUT, if you're doing all these all these time cos you 拥抱希望 to shag her, bro bro, you have lost the battle already!

Yesterday she complaint to me after work that she got a 跑台 (one guy never pay her butterfly tips) and I was empthazing her how it sucks and some customers are just lidat... I asked her a direct question if she treats me as one of her customer, where she say "I regard you as my friend".

Now, that set me thinking what's should be my approach being "friend" now... hmmm...

Shagging her will be a trophy to gain but that's not always on my mind now. Frankly, I'm just a bored, single, with plenty of time and some stash for playing that's all. Sex drive also lowered with age liao....

(No, I'm NOT 56 you read this Mr. REG??!! LOL, cunt believe you took me for real with that post.)

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

1stly, ask yourself what is the purpose of all these fiascoes and what do you wanna get out of it all.
If it's all for the above that i mentioned, i find it perfectly harmless and quite sweet n nice actually
But if you look at her as MEAT, aka a WL, I would have done this.
Knowing she'll lean over to give me a peck, I'd be waiting, when she leans over, I'll grab the neck draw her in n french her.
You'd be surprise how effective this works.
There is no way on earth she'll fight you off.
Remember, she'll most likely give in.
I said french not grope or dig hor lol
Once she gives in, hey, you have just moved past status quo status and dun have to waste all these time & $$$$ on guessing games.
It will be EXTREMELY soon before you bed her.
You think she dunno this?
PRCs are more liberal than us in the sex game bro.
If you allow her to cont, then, she is already pulling your dick like a leash bro.

My purpose, I think answered above to bro WB oredi...
Your frenching tip sounds good! Will do that next round and FR

I think she also want to KC me hoping I will BY her or really taking my "marriage proposal" for real...

On the other hand, I may be the one thinking too much (or too highly of myself) whereby she's just taking me as an escape from having to work for that day and rather have me "buy" her out for other activities. Well, even then I don't mind as I rather have her 5-hours company like social escort and need not pay for a room where I can't even finish the 4 jars.

Will see over time...

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Remember, there are times to be a gentleman for obvious reasons and occasions where gentlemen also become predators.
Use these 2 faced approach and you'll be scoring fast or saved a huge amount of time and money.

Enjoy bro

Okie, noted!

BTW, I was told KCing these KTV girls and keeping them are much "cheaper" that those HFJ girls; as the latter need to always go support them to hit their monthly quota. Just a random thought!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

I was told KCing these KTV girls and keeping them are much "cheaper" that those HFJ girls; as the latter need to always go support them to hit their monthly quota. Just a random thought!

You do not emotionally KC HFJ whores, you just tie a noose around their necks connected to your wallet.
"Cheaper" equates to more accessibility to any tom dick & harry.
"Expensive" eliminates many unwanted pests, like you just experienced she complaint to me after work that she got a 跑台 (one guy never pay her butterfly tips)
As for the monthly quota thingy, if you can afford it, what's the issue?
No one said you have to regularly go to help her meet quota.
You can just pay the company direct on the amount you want to support without ever even hanging a single flower.
Alternatively, if you do not want her to work, make a deal with the company to get her off stage and stay home.
Everything also can, as I've mentioned above, if you can afford it, what's the issue.
And if you can afford, in the nite scene, cannot also will become can!
All who can afford it would already know this by now

Now that you've explained your predicament, i can only say
你们两在玩希望计
谁都不像前一步
谁也不退一步
有意思吗？
I am sure as you've mentioned that there are many occasions that you two just get stuck at that moment in time and dunno how to proceed.
This is what you get when everything around you is yelling:
Ooi, faster, next chapter, we stuck at this chapter for too long liao!
Waiting for wat?????? Lol
Enjoy bro

[michkim2]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Performance bonus had to be met in STRICT conditions and there's no negotiations or leeway or any discount given.
Though $$$$$ is yours, make sure them earn their keep, not just because they allow you to insert your dicky dick into their mouths or swallow your spermy sperms.

If I were you, I'd dump this bitch long long ago.
There is only 1 thing that will raise my alarm, someone has already BLOCKED all her friday nites!

Like the laws of BY, once you BY someone, 4-5k is too little and she has to be KEPT at home legs spread waiting only for your DICK 24/7.
8-10k plus rental shud suffice.
No other way, allow any other scenarios and you'll only be wearing green hats.

Not it isn't possible but instead, IT MUST be a MUST! A criteria of being BY by you else again, there will be too many blindspots and she'll have tons of ways, excuses & alibis to fuck around behind your back!

Remember, the ART of control is that you want but you will not tolerate any form of negotiation from your requirements. If any of those arise, be prepared to drop it all and buy another piece of meat. Do not, because of a whore, bow your head to suit her.
No other way, else you'll just be a walking laughing stock!

Master DYBJ,
Yes. I should have dump her long ago!
Agreed on your advice to keep them from working at all. Do you have any experience where your gal complains about being bored with nothing to do especially I may not be available to visit her for bonking every night? I also see Xin2 (from Mistress thread) and some senior bros sharing that their gals are working but No ST or chu jie. If my new gal request for such arrangement, I will very much want to reject learning from my first BY experience. But why do other bros go with allowing their gals to work but no ST or Chu Jie?

On negotiation, I will adopt the advice and clearly state upfront the non negotiables! If she even tries, I will go search and buy another!

Thanks very much for your good advice again! Appreciate your selfless sharing of your wealth of knowledge! Will like to tag along for a drink session to learn if I can. (weekend are strictly family days and bites for me - other days I will definitely try to make it)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by michkim2

Master DYBJ

Please please, I'm no master, I'm just a newbie noob

Originally Posted by michkim2

Yes. I should have dump her long ago!

So what ya waiting for?
Never 舍不得 for if so, the only one that 吃亏 is non other than yourself.

Originally Posted by michkim2

Agreed on your advice to keep them from working at all. Do you have any experience where your gal complains about being bored with nothing to do especially I may not be available to visit her for bonking every night?

Bro, they come in all shapes and sizes but one thing is always the same, their patterns may change, but the core reason for such patterns or excuses are money related.
Remember the golden rule?
NO NEGOTIATIONS, it's my way or the highway.

Originally Posted by michkim2

I also see Xin2 (from Mistress thread) and some senior bros sharing that their gals are working but No ST or chu jie.

Ah yes, I did contribute to that thread but my take on BY is only applicable for singers, as for 坐台, I've put it very clear why its a no no to BY for me.
Too many loose ends and too much room for her to maneuver.
Also, as you have also read in that thread, some people are perfectly fine with the idea of TIME SHARING, a big no no for me & for Guru WarBird I'm sure.
As for the ST or ChuJie part, no one can be sure unless you have her under lock and key.
Example, have you ever seen her texting anyone while your in bed with her?
Have you seen her answering calls from MEN even when she's with you, on or off bed?
Now minus your presence from the above equation, you could be the one texting or calling her, and she could be in bed wif someone else but on the pretext that she's working!

Originally Posted by michkim2

If my new gal request for such arrangement, I will very much want to reject learning from my first BY experience.

You do not very much want bro, you just blatantly do it!

Originally Posted by michkim2

But why do other bros go with allowing their gals to work but no ST or Chu Jie?

Bcos they "BELIEVE" that the one they BY is trust worthy and reliable.
Because they've been smitten and cannot let go of that whore...aka KCed
Because they've spoilt her and give in to everything she says or wants
Because they forgot they're men and those are just pieces of meat that they treat better than their actual wives
There was someone who openly said they dun quite agree wif my ways in the Mistress thread and I accept that.
Everyone has the right to their own concepts and set of rules.
But when a singer he was supporting was sleeping with so many other men and caught by me on more than 2 occasions and also, during that time, witnessed by bro LDH for we were both supporting 2 singers from the same stage, no matter how we told him, in the end, we were called trouble makers, why?
Cos he gave in to the gal and the joint had the reason to exploit the entire situation to their advantage & to label us as trouble makers.
From the joint's point of view, yeah, they're rite.
But from our view, we're just helping a bro from being cheated right infront of our faces and also, to save his face.
He has since disappeared!
His only reason and lasts words to me were, SORRY BRO, I ADMIT, I'm KCed by her, you know how long we've been together?
To me, that made matters worse, cos if they're together for a few years and she's here for 6mths and already got a few guys shagging her, goodness, how many others in those years??????????
Thus the term, DO NOT PUMP PETROL IN A CAR ONLY TO BE DRIVEN BY SOMEONE ELSE!
But it's definitely ok to drive someone else's car la lolzzzzzzz
Note, he's no newbie, he's an old bird liao!
This sums up the WHY u were asking me already!

Because they either forgot or never heard these 2 songs:

From the man's perspective
Depeche Mode - Master & Servant


And from the whore's perspective
Pet Shop Boys - Rent


I personally have FUCKED many such gals who have so called 老公s and I'm also sure many others besides me have too.
I have, on several occasions, actually still thrusting their pussies while they're on the phone with their so called 老公!
Remember, when a person, male or female enters this line of work, he/she has already let go of all integrity and morals.
So, dun hug a shark that says, dun worry dear, I love you so I'll never bite you.
Get the drift?

Originally Posted by michkim2

On negotiation, I will adopt the advice and clearly state upfront the non negotiables! If she even tries, I will go search and buy another!

Yes, by all means, reverse psychology on such people will only work to your advantage.
If only you knew the number of alpha females I've conquered and when they're not with me, they're lionesses but when with me, a pussy cat!

Originally Posted by michkim2

Thanks very much for your good advice again! Appreciate your selfless sharing of your wealth of knowledge!

As per what bro Jacky Chan always says, we share bcos we care mah lolzzzz

Originally Posted by michkim2

Will like to tag along for a drink session to learn if I can. (weekend are strictly family days and bites for me - other days I will definitely try to make it)

No need to tag along cos read my siggy, I'm retired hehehehe
Maybe it's time you ventured into HFJs rather than KTVs, it's more potent & fun and also where all the creme de le creme exists!

[justl00king]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Would appreciate any tips from all the experts here

Same here, maybe the masters and gurus here can advice.

Had known this TAM gal for awhile, quite good looking with slim bod and big boobs. There's a guy who takes care of her, giving her 5-8k monthly. But she still works there few nights a week.

She will call me to fetch her after work to go supper, or outings on her off days. At times will end up in hotel, but I do not pay her directly.I pay for all expenses when we are out and will give her few hundred here and there as pocket money. So we are more like friends with benefits situation here, which I am totally comfortable.

One night, she told me she really likes me and wants me to be her BF. But I would have to cover her monthly rent of 2k and she will continue working just for tips. She does not do s/t with her clients. Even told me to move in to stay with her if I want. My reply was that I am already happy with our current relationship and does not wish to complicate things for now.

But in my mind I am wondering what kind of KC game she playing...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by justl00king

Same here, maybe the masters and gurus here can advice.

Had known this TAM gal for awhile, quite good looking with slim bod and big boobs. There's a guy who takes care of her, giving her 5-8k monthly. But she still works there few nights a week.

She will call me to fetch her after work to go supper, or outings on her off days. At times will end up in hotel, but I do not pay her directly.I pay for all expenses when we are out and will give her few hundred here and there as pocket money. So we are more like friends with benefits situation here, which I am totally comfortable.

One night, she told me she really likes me and wants me to be her BF. But I would have to cover her monthly rent of 2k and she will continue working just for tips. She does not do s/t with her clients. Even told me to move in to stay with her if I want. My reply was that I am already happy with our current relationship and does not wish to complicate things for now.

But in my mind I am wondering what kind of KC game she playing...

This whore is gooooood!
Very sexperienced WL
I like.
So either way you look at it bro, you're either damn lucky or damn sway cos she prolly said the same shit to that guy who's giving her the 5-8k

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Now that you've explained your predicament, i can only say
你们两在玩希望计
谁都不像前一步
谁也不退一步
有意思吗？
I am sure as you've mentioned that there are many occasions that you two just get stuck at that moment in time and dunno how to proceed.
This is what you get when everything around you is yelling:
Ooi, faster, next chapter, we stuck at this chapter for too long liao!
Waiting for wat?????? Lol
Enjoy bro

Just came back from another non-eventfull outing with her just now. Casual window shopping, snacks at a restaurant, some chit-chat sitting on steps and gazing into the stary night for some romance, and then late night movie. Just like most bgr date, except that I have to pay her $200 at the end; to cover her "losses" on a otherwise busy ($$$) Friday night at the ktv.

Must have chosen the wrong movie (The Viral Factor) which fail to set the mood properly...wtf. No chance to talk about "the next chapter" after that. Well, if any comfort to me, she did say in future she will give me time instead of having to cover her; just at the point when I hand over the cash.

She was the one who called & date me in the early afternoon, so I like to think she like my $200 more than the others. I think it'll take some time before I can accomplish my mission at this rate... Will FR here with any progress!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Just came back from another non-eventfull outing with her just now. Casual window shopping, snacks at a restaurant, some chit-chat sitting on steps and gazing into the stary night for some romance, and then late night movie. Just like most bgr date, except that I have to pay her $200 at the end; to cover her "losses" on a otherwise busy ($$$) Friday night at the ktv.

Must have chosen the wrong movie (The Viral Factor) which fail to set the mood properly...wtf. No chance to talk about "the next chapter" after that. Well, if any comfort to me, she did say in future she will give me time instead of having to cover her; just at the point when I hand over the cash.

She was the one who called & date me in the early afternoon, so I like to think she like my $200 more than the others. I think it'll take some time before I can accomplish my mission at this rate... Will FR here with any progress!

Bro, before I begin my post, I've been informed that my reply to you yesterday is a bit harsh???????
If it was, please accept my most humblest apologies as it was not my intention.
If at any 1 point you feel you've had enuff of me, just say it, not only will I not freak or go crazy, but I will accept your decision as well as still maintain that respect that everyone is their ship's own captain.
My theory is very simple, though many may not accept, but hey, I've yet to meet a failure. Maybe bcos I know when to pull the plug.

Tonight's escapade is totally a WIN to her.
Why?
1) She earned that 200 bucks
2) She didn't have to drink 跑台 and risk meeting jerks or colour wolves
3) She was brought to a night out of relaxation and R&R

For us to be players, not that I'm saying you're not, we must learn to tune our brain like theirs, then we will be able to read and anticipate every move they make and all the strategies they use and why they use them.

Here's my take on this situation from a WLs perspective

1) I'm here to earn $$$$
2) With him damn shiok, he's no colour wolf
3) He brings me for dinners
4) He bring me for movies
5) We go shopping
6) I call him when I'm bored and he'll keep me company
7) He never asks to bed me
8) He's so concerning & everything also can talk and nego
9) He never pushes me to do whatever I do not wish to
10) He's such a gentleman to me
11) I don't need to perform oral sex on him neither does he grope me unless I allow him
12) What have I got to loose, it's WIN WIN WIN all the way for me

Yes, money you may have, how much, it's really not important to me but, make it work for you.
Remember, no one comes into this line now in this day and age from PRC, ok, maybe 1% a total greenhorn!
If you still believe, then you already fooled yourself.
Most if all not that are here have already honed their skills in the motherland and mind you, I'm sure we as businessmen know that PRC men are worse of a sleazebag in many ways than we are.

As WarBird knows, my style is more of a MCP extreme, even at havelock & I'm sure you may even have heard of my rep there.
WarBird can be my witness.

Why are we here in this forum?
To discuss and to brainstorm on how to get the meat in the shortest time and the least $$$$$ invested.
But, many things need not be asked between gal & guy, sometimes it has to be initiated and all it takes is for someone to take the lead.
I saw your link & nope, I was not aware of the other post until you shared that link.
So my post last nite to you was based on all things equal.

Lonely you may be, bored you may be and read back what you posted.
You already justified all your activities with her, bearing in mind that this tree has bear no fruit for you.

As a bystander, i won't call friend cos i dunno u, i can read between the lines and say confidently, this is no WL to you in your eyes since a while ago.
Strongly suggest you do a refresher on what you wanted in the 1st place and focus on achieving it and not stray too wildly in the realms of KC.

Your posts, I can sense truth, so I can say, you're a nice guy and it's a good trait but be warned, WLs LOVE such people.
Be nice to deserving people but learn to put your foot down and say, ok, now this is the situation and we must blah blah blah!
Be the captain of both your boats if you want to see results.

Honestly, I can also sense your sense of being in limbo everytime after you send her back and pay her for her social escort services.

Well, like i said, we're our own ship's captain and I wish u all the best & hope you bring her to shore real soon!
Hope i didn't prick a nerve this time & if i did, apologies.
If u know me in person like WB does, you'll know the way I am in real life also sama sama, no BS, chop chop to the point whether offensive or not.

Cheers

[pyscho77]

Morning bros,

I do not mean to blatantly "carry balls" for DYBJ, but to play the KC game and emerge unscathed sextisfied at the end of the day, follow faithfully to some of the KC thread advises in this forum works for me. The posts here by several bros could not have said it better in any way possible - at least valuable lessons here works for me; which means thinking with your logical brain and not your heart nor your dick erected.

They have shelf life of 2 yrs like leasing eqpt. For that fixed price monthly, they have their earnings, you would get to use it as often as you like. At then end of the shelf life, consider the questions:
- they go back hometown country to retire?
- do a new work permit and refresh the lease?
- KC by you soooo much she wanna marry you?

Hence, what you want is a good time, access to exclusive pussy, pay the affordable lease mthly, not wear green lantern hat. Since this "entrepreneur eqpt" has a brain, depending on the package you give her and her comfy zone, she will decide to dedicate her pussy exclusively to you.

How would you be certain of this exclusivity? Unless you are with her daily in your love nest as lovers for 2yrs till her permit is up, there is virtually no certainty. So there is this issue of compromise, you are at this decision because this meat is worth ycertainty in $$$, but if you cannot be certain is full exclusivity, then play it along on the pretext of "exclusivity" with her with the minimum sum available - it's an issue of give and take... Who knows? Another gal might strut along to sweep you off your feet with a better offer? - never give up the entire forest just becausse of 1 tree...

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

... Tonight's escapade is totally a WIN to her.
Why?
1) She earned that 200 bucks
2) She didn't have to drink 跑台 and risk meeting jerks or colour wolves
3) She was brought to a night out of relaxation and R&R

For us to be players, not that I'm saying you're not, we must learn to tune our brain like theirs, then we will be able to read and anticipate every move they make and all the strategies they use and why they use them.

Here's my take on this situation from a WLs perspective

1) I'm here to earn $$$$
2) With him damn shiok, he's no colour wolf
3) He brings me for dinners
4) He bring me for movies
5) We go shopping
6) I call him when I'm bored and he'll keep me company
7) He never asks to bed me
8) He's so concerning & everything also can talk and nego
9) He never pushes me to do whatever I do not wish to
10) He's such a gentleman to me
11) I don't need to perform oral sex on him neither does he grope me unless I allow him
12) What have I got to loose, it's WIN WIN WIN all the way for me

Yes, money you may have, how much, it's really not important to me but, make it work for you.
Remember, no one comes into this line now in this day and age from PRC, ok, maybe 1% a total greenhorn!
If you still believe, then you already fooled yourself.
Most if all not that are here have already honed their skills in the motherland and mind you, I'm sure we as businessmen know that PRC men are worse of a sleazebag in many ways than we are.

As WarBird knows, my style is more of a MCP extreme, even at havelock & I'm sure you may even have heard of my rep there.
WarBird can be my witness.

Why are we here in this forum?
To discuss and to brainstorm on how to get the meat in the shortest time and the least $$$$$ invested.
But, many things need not be asked between gal & guy, sometimes it has to be initiated and all it takes is for someone to take the lead.
I saw your link & nope, I was not aware of the other post until you shared that link.
So my post last nite to you was based on all things equal.

Lonely you may be, bored you may be and read back what you posted.
You already justified all your activities with her, bearing in mind that this tree has bear no fruit for you.

As a bystander, i won't call friend cos i dunno u, i can read between the lines and say confidently, this is no WL to you in your eyes since a while ago.
Strongly suggest you do a refresher on what you wanted in the 1st place and focus on achieving it and not stray too wildly in the realms of KC.

Your posts, I can sense truth, so I can say, you're a nice guy and it's a good trait but be warned, WLs LOVE such people.
Be nice to deserving people but learn to put your foot down and say, ok, now this is the situation and we must blah blah blah!
Be the captain of both your boats if you want to see results.

Honestly, I can also sense your sense of being in limbo everytime after you send her back and pay her for her social escort services.

Well, like i said, we're our own ship's captain and I wish u all the best & hope you bring her to shore real soon!
Hope i didn't prick a nerve this time & if i did, apologies.
If u know me in person like WB does, you'll know the way I am in real life also sama sama, no BS, chop chop to the point whether offensive or not.

Cheers

[warbird]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Dear Guru WB, it's only subject to negotiation if there's a WANT.
But if there's a take it or leave it attitude, the negotiation factor is already eliminated from the beginning thus putting only YOU in control.
Remember dun cut the whole forest for a tree?

Dear Mr. Chairman,

Actually the "WANT" part is not always true for me.

I love negotiating n bargaining n paying below market value for anything n everything including pussies of my type.

If a gal asks for 10K a month, n even if I think she is worth every penny, I'll tell her 8K, hehe. Yes, I'll walk away if she rejects the offer cuz even if she says yes, I may not hv the time, energy, money or any spunk left to BY her, hahaha.

I enjoy getting gals of my type to agree to BY n negotiating the terms, etc more than the actual BY, hahaha. After all, how many gals can a lao ah pek like me keep at any one time? Perhaps 3, max. My heart may be willing but, unfortunately, 我的小弟弟真的吃不消了。。。

If I were a young n virile man like u, I'll definitely keep many more, hehehe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Originally Posted by goodpartner

Ya, I saw that ABC and AIDI youtube clip and it's really extreme but funny and drives home the point I didn't do the closing part well...

My mission, I think (see, I actually don't know ) is to bed her eventually but like to enjoy the process/challenge before reaching the destination, knowing that she'll be here for at least 6 months. I'm just bored with the usual pay and farkoff thingy after being jaded chionging so much in the past.

So ya, just a "ST" thingy as the destination but don't mind playing KC. Maybe since she actually rejected that $1000 note (initially offered just the market rate) that make me more determine to get her for "free"... maybe that's what I'm thinking lor... Aiya, you know lah.

No, I'm not into BY any girl as I don't find it value for money on the surface... and that's maybe because I've not evaluate the pros/cons sufficiently.

So, for such girl where they seemingly do not "sell", what are the strategies?

Hi goodpartner，

Offer her 2k for ST. If u give her a good time, u will pay her less n less for RTFs. It takes time n effort to KC these gals. You can't win unless u hv formidable self mastery.

If she rejects ur offer, walk away from her. As for me, I'll offer to BY her, hehe.

Good luck!

Bro WB

Originally Posted by michkim2

Bro WB,

Thanks for yr advice.

My ex-gal from DC is from Henan. If you are done with yr Jiangsu gals, can pm me their ctc? I like slim gals with B/C boobs and slim legs, about 162-165 range. Of course not more than 25yo but will consider if gal is real pretty.

Plan to go hunting around havelock area. Wish me luck.

Hi bro,

There is only one Jiangsu gal who is still around. She is 23, 172 in height n abt 52-53 kg, fair, very pretty n classy, long legs/arms n nice ass, but only A boobs. She goes to LV n TAM. Student visa. Very few gals can match her classy good looks n height. If only she had natural B/C boobs...BTW, I last saw her abt 10 days ago at LV SH.

I need to find her ctc as my HP suddenly mal-functioned 3 days ago n I couldn't tell who was calling or texting me. I hv since transferred the sim card to a new phone but I hv lost abt half the ctc list!

Forget her if u want a least B/C boobs like I do now.

Good luck!

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Good morning,

I'm overwhelmed n awe-struck by the exchanges between the many esteemed bros n bro DYBJ aka Mr. Chairman. These r pearls of wisdom n profound insights from which I hv learned a great deal.

Thank you all!

The secret to getting what u want in life is ur degree of self confidence/self mastery. It's the foundation upon which u add strategies, education, knowledge, expertise, connections, friendship, RS, love, sex techniques, etc.

In man-woman RS, if a man is still worried that he may be unattractive to chio babes cuz he is too ugly, too fat, too thin, too short, too tall, too poor, too rich, too young, too old, of a different skin color, different religion, etc, he doesn't understand attraction n he has insufficient self mastery.

My advice is to google Sean Stephenson, hahaha. He is a very badass n he has lots of self mastery...more than anyone I hv met. My goal is to hv more self mastery than he has, much much more.

My new interest is in keeping non-WLs.

Yesterday, I had a date, a real one for which I paid nothing other than dinner, w/ two very chio n sexy gals who r NON-WLs. I met a 23 yo gal JR thru QQ in PRC last yr. She just came to study at a reputable school in SG. We made ctc n she asked to meet me for dinner n I agreed. Although her school is near CBD, she lived in the dorm very far away so I told her I would pick her up after school. She asked if her classmate could come along, I reluctantly said yes.

I parked my car near a MRT station not far from their school. I was pleasantly surprised that her fren VO is a pretty SYT! She is barely 18, 165 n 49kg? Both gals exude sex appeal n hv proportionate body/limbs, perky butt n C boobs. JR asks me if I could intro a BF for VO...haha. Why should I give this fresh n delicious abalone to someone else? I want to BY both of them n keep them in one studio near their school, ya. Since these gals hv enuff of their own money for living expenses n school fees, I'll offer 4-5K a month each plus rental. I'm going for broke here as my "package offer" is for both gals or nothing.

In my conversations w/ them I broached the subject of why God is very fair to women (after JR mentioned that many men kept 充气的娃娃 n I answered that many women kept vibrators, hehe)。Though they suffered the hardship of carrying, delivering n carrying for babies, they r bestowed w/ the potential of intense pleasure of orgasms that could last for an hr! They blushed n said they had never heard of it...JR said her orgasms last only secs?!! VO was too shy to look at me n had her head down...

After dinner, I drove them around town, to Orchard road n along Marina Sands. There were road blocks n some sort of carnival there. VO was sitting in the back seat, leaning back, legs spread out n w/ her short skirt, I could get glimpses of her flimsy panty n dark pussy pointing at me when I turned my head to talk to her. I could not see clearly as the street lamps were not bright enuff. She made no attempts to cross her legs or sit up. hahaha. That was a sure sign of strong sexual interest.

When I was w/ them, I was asking myself: How much pleasure can they stand n how hard will they cum for me, hahaha.

I dropped them off at a MRT station. The cost of my fun-filled late afternoon n evening w/ two chio n sexy SYTs who r non-WLs? A grand total of $87. And they were very appreciative...

Why go to KTVs or hang flowers???

Cheers!

Bro WB