Ever fall in love with a massage girl

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by sladang

Hv u checked how much u hv spend on these massage girls over the past few years? ..

past few years? no leh.. why need to when its part of my chiong life.

also I start chiong ktv since early 20s. if really calulate 30 years of chionging.. it may hit a million. no chiong no life..

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by sladang

Hv u checked how much u hv spend on these massage girls over the past few years? ..

As you asked about how much is spend on ML,

I did a rough calculation of the amount I spend in last 7 months on this ML. It is $35K+/-

Meals (3 days per week) - grab food for her, dinner together, supper together,
car rental for supper, meal during her 2 days off per month - $2.2K per month

Visiting and tipping her in shop 1/3 time of a month - $1.5K per month
Room rental - $500 per month

$5.6K in gift, cash and beauty expenses.

Probably this is the price of keeping a "gf" bah. It is worth the amount and time spend on her.

Actually, there are some regrets as well.
Regretting that massage session with GFE (the way she speak and flirt) when I first know her become 0 (zero) GFE during massage

[sladang]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

As you asked about how much is spend on ML,

I did a rough calculation of the amount I spend in last 7 months on this ML. It is $35K+/-

Meals (3 days per week) - grab food for her, dinner together, supper together,
car rental for supper, meal during her 2 days off per month - $2.2K per month

Visiting and tipping her in shop 1/3 time of a month - $1.5K per month
Room rental - $500 per month

$5.6K in gift, cash and beauty expenses.

Probably this is the price of keeping a "gf" bah. It is worth the amount and time spend on her.

Actually, there are some regrets as well.
Regretting that massage session with GFE (the way she speak and flirt) when I first know her become 0 (zero) GFE during massage

That's lotsa money dude, probably u hv lost one 4-rooms hdb flat ba ..

[Mobile88]

Is she considered sugar baby?
Sugar baby might be better.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by sladang

That's lotsa money dude, probably u hv lost one 4-rooms hdb flat ba ..

probably will be if she is those that keep renewing spass every 2 years to stay to work. If so, I would probably adopt other strategy already.
In anyway, all relationship in this world now involve money.

This is her 3rd stint in Sillypore.
1st time - 4 months, go back 3 months
2nd time - 5 months, go back 6 months (get to know her)
3rd time - 7 months, I guessing will be 5 months (get involve with her)

How it play out when she comes back again will depend on which shop she found to work in.

[Banaber]

luckily i did not pursue and stick to single/overnight sessions with my platinum regular all these years.
can't say the same for ktv side of the house though, troi oi.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Banaber

can't say the same for ktv side of the house though, troi oi.

compare ML to my past experience with ktv and pubs FL donkey years ago, this is definitely alot more money spent. Last time viet FL come 2 months max and go back. Things are cheaper back then... being young and single, other them using money to hook, I can use my charm. can keep switching gf at low cost. Now as an unavailable older man, only money talks. No matter how good we are together, it still remain complicated and cannot be shown in public.

This is one off experience with this particular ML. If you ask me to find another ML to start such relationship again, I will not do it.

[bumblebuzz]

Hi bros,

I think this is a good thread to always remind oneself to wake up to reality. Recently I keep visiting a ML. Think kena KC. Used to be once a week, now become twice or more a week. Somehow I like this ML quite a lot compared to others that I visited. But end day, I tell myself they all just want money. Whatever they say to me, they say to others. Sometimes they also forgot what you told them and what they told you.


Was wondering what the next stage will be and actually so what if it develops more. They still be working their job. Expect better treatment or maybe free? Though I doubt so. Anyone ever experienced it? Or what to expect or lower expectations so won’t get disappointed. 😐

[Moshimosh]

Originally Posted by bumblebuzz

Hi bros,

I think this is a good thread to always remind oneself to wake up to reality. Recently I keep visiting a ML. Think kena KC. Used to be once a week, now become twice or more a week. Somehow I like this ML quite a lot compared to others that I visited. But end day, I tell myself they all just want money. Whatever they say to me, they say to others. Sometimes they also forgot what you told them and what they told you.


Was wondering what the next stage will be and actually so what if it develops more. They still be working their job. Expect better treatment or maybe free? Though I doubt so. Anyone ever experienced it? Or what to expect or lower expectations so won’t get disappointed. 😐

Thats true hehe. They wont fall for you thats for sure. And stop imagining that you can progress further with her, coz it wont happen. Its a norm they intentionally or uninternationally get close to a few customers since they are in a stranger land without much friends. Ultmate goal is still to make money and get lost.

Its also human nature when u have body contact, u tend to think more emotionally. I usually dont go back to the same ML or FL to avoid such complications. Also dont watsapp or wechat them, just treat them as a tool.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by bumblebuzz

Hi bros,

I think this is a good thread to always remind oneself to wake up to reality. Recently I keep visiting a ML. Think kena KC. Used to be once a week, now become twice or more a week. Somehow I like this ML quite a lot compared to others that I visited. But end day, I tell myself they all just want money. Whatever they say to me, they say to others. Sometimes they also forgot what you told them and what they told you.

Was wondering what the next stage will be and actually so what if it develops more. They still be working their job. Expect better treatment or maybe free? Though I doubt so. Anyone ever experienced it? Or what to expect or lower expectations so won’t get disappointed. 😐

There is always this one ML that we like more compare to other ML. I don't know what the ML say to you. I assume is some flirting and gfe conversation.
Are you expecting fj from her by visiting her more? Then you got to play the game right especially ML from Cat1 spa. If is it ML/FL from f joint, then I dunno what you expecting liao.

From my personal experience with the ML from Cat1 spa whom I have a complicated relationship. Initially is all about happy enjoyable flirting gfe/bfe conversation between us during the session, flirtatious suggestion of greater service in next visit. Small gesture of bubble tea or banh mi is always accepted happily. As if it is still part of her work to make the customer feel appreciated and to visit more.

As our relationship develops more into the next stage, it become a more serious conversion and mostly is about her 90% of the time. i.e. her problem, her logistical needs, her issues with colleagues and bad customers, etc. When trying to flirt, she will say it is nonsense. When buying bubble tea or snacks for her, its a waste of money as she prefer other drinks/food. This is definitely not a better treatment in terms of service.

Also nothing is free. You can see my past few post on the amount spent in a short 7 months.

[sibeinerd]

Take care yourself more important..

[sibeinerd]

Best is not to fall in love at all with them. 99.9% no good ending
Don’t think of investment returns mindset, you will not pull yourself out easily once deeper, emotional or monetary.
All a dream after you wake up

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Moshimosh

Thats true hehe. They wont fall for you thats for sure. And stop imagining that you can progress further with her

Originally Posted by sibeinerd

Best is not to fall in love at all with them. 99.9% no good ending

not advocating that we can fall in love with ML/FL.
A good ending is only marriage and getting her out of the industry.
0.01% chances yah.

1) you must make yourself standout among all the suitors. (how? -> $$$)
2) you must be able to clear off all her debt, her family debt and relative debt.
3) you need to be financially sound, earning way above $3K (for successful LTVP and PR application)
4) you must be financially sound to support her, her family and relative after
5) most importantly, she must be willing to forgo her high income (above $10K) and high living standard to live a normal life and have family with you.
6) you need to sustain the relationship (how? -> $$$)

This is my real life experience to share. It should be similar to ML.
In this world, no money don't talk honey.

[nkyc]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

As you asked about how much is spend on ML,

I did a rough calculation of the amount I spend in last 7 months on this ML. It is $35K+/-

Meals (3 days per week) - grab food for her, dinner together, supper together,
car rental for supper, meal during her 2 days off per month - $2.2K per month

Visiting and tipping her in shop 1/3 time of a month - $1.5K per month
Room rental - $500 per month

$5.6K in gift, cash and beauty expenses.

Probably this is the price of keeping a "gf" bah. It is worth the amount and time spend on her.

Actually, there are some regrets as well.
Regretting that massage session with GFE (the way she speak and flirt) when I first know her become 0 (zero) GFE during massage

Why need pay for RM rental? Go budget hotel each time when stay over cheaper?

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by sibeinerd

Don’t think of investment returns mindset, you will not pull yourself out easily once deeper, emotional or monetary.

Very true.
1) investment returns is always gonna be lesser than what is invested.
The money you put in should be the extra money that you have and not forgoing daily expenses to sustain the relationship with the ML

I shared in previous post, a guy spend 90% of his $3K monthly pay on a ML. They are very lovey-dovey for the 2 months I know them. One fine day, a rich player come along. He is able to provide the ML free lodging, fetching her and driving her around in nice car, provide more expensive gift and cash. Bang... she is gone with the new rich guy.


2) Emotionally, it will take alot of time and effort to recover though.

For my case, its more of a emotional attachment which I need to manage with the ML I have been with for the past 7 months. I was a KC player many years ago yet I need time to recover this time round. So, I bet many guys who don't play such game often will find it very hard to recover.