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Old 22-09-2014, 11:55 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Kinda agree.... as mentioned once again lah , just a very personal opinion . Perhaps the joint i went to got better luck from V girls than china ones. One thing that is true about china girls , they do look more stunning ..maybe chinese chinese mah . No language barrier somemore

So where do you usually hang out?"
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Total damage per pax sounds reasonable leh .... can i join ??? hehehe
Bro ShanShan76,

If u like Viet gals, get them.

I go to TAM n Dynasty.

Pls join me, but sometimes the expense per pax is higher due to fewer kakis n excessive drinking.

Cheers!

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Well done bro WB,
Pls contact me for the next out going on Oct, it is still once a month.
Ok bro hayouth. You must join my TAM outing early next month.

Cheers!


.................................................. ........


Good morning!


My hero is Ben Franklin. I hv learned the art of frugality from Benjamin Franklin. I go to KTVs to meet attractive girls of my type n would like to keep the friction cost to the minimum.

Frugality is the first step to the art of MANILNESS, which is contrary to what most bros believe. They think spending big buck is manly.

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2008/0...ife-frugality/

Think what you do when you run in debt; you give to another power over your liberty.~Benjamin Franklin

Mr Franklin wasn't exactly poor, he was estimated to have a net worth $10.3 billion in 2008 dollars, ranked #181 on the list of the richest people who ever lived.

"Franklin was a leading author, printer, political theorist, politician, postmaster, scientist, inventor, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat." And a national hero...

http://mentalfloss.com/article/19726...st-people-ever


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin


Be more frugal than Ben Franklin. That is a good start. Don't forget his other even more famous quote:

“Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.” Great advice.


BTW, I'm happy to report that I hv been kind enough to offer to take care of or BY a girl in SG abt every 2 wks this yr. And all of them hv been smart enough to accept haha. I hv consummated the deal on only a small percentage of them. In fact, no gals hv been dumb enough to say no in the last 22 months.

What happened to the gal FH who said no 22 months ago? Just before leaving SG after almost 6 months here, she confided w/ me that she had not done ST n she didn't hv any BF here. I now know why. She was a lesbian. I suspect there r more than a few of them. One of my gals told me that a pretty short hair gal who works at TAM is supporting a homely gal who stays home, like a lao po haha.


When you meet a gal you like to ST. Tell her asap. If she flatly refuses, up the ante. If she still refuses, and if you're into BY-ing, tell her that immediately. Do this especially if she is your dream gal. Most men become timid n want to play it safe if the gal is very attractive. They want to get to know her better n take it slow. Hahaha, that is a big mistake. Be bold n ruthlessly honest w/ ur intentions n desires. It works like MAGIC. Because you're different from so many "little timid men" aka little boys she has met before. Excite her...be MODE ONE.


Early last yr I offered BY to a very pretty MILF 12 secs after meeting her. I didn't even book her. She didn't say yes or no, just gave me her HP no. She agreed the next day. I consummated the deal 3 wks later cuz my family came for CNY. She was the one who squirted n squirted...


Cheers!


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Old 22-09-2014, 04:50 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Bro ShanShan76,

If u like Viet gals, get them.

I go to TAM n Dynasty.

Pls join me, but sometimes the expense per pax is higher due to fewer kakis n excessive drinking.

Cheers!



Ok bro hayouth. You must join my TAM outing early next month.

Cheers!





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Oh ok ... So where do I sign up bro WB ....???
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Old 23-09-2014, 07:26 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Sure, call me .

Will try to join the SH if can, but most likely only can stay the HH.
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Old 24-09-2014, 11:06 AM
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Sure, call me .

Will try to join the SH if can, but most likely only can stay the HH.
Bro,

My outings r mostly HH. Will ctc u next month.

Cheers!

Bro WB

........................................

Good morning!

A bro I hv known for many yrs sent a PM:

"great update bro!

how do you say ST in Mandarin?
How much do you usually offer for ST?

Thanks"

Since many bros hv asked the same question, it's more appropriate for me to answer them here.

ST in Mandarin is 出街 or 开房. If u want to be more explicit n naughty: 做爱, 打炮 n 性 交. Can also say 造 人, 云 雨, 睡 觉, 插 入, 周 公 之 礼, 大 事 儿, 办 实 事 儿, 操 B, 69, 99 n many others haha.

The damage for ST has gone up for girls u meet at TAM, even though the quality has gone down!

Everything is negotiable but most girls now demand $500 to 1K. Some may want 1.5 to 2K n up! Normally you could spend a few hrs w/ her.

I hv never paid more than 1.5K for ST.

In 2010, I ST-ed a pretty n sexy Hubei girl I met at TAM for $300 several times. She wanted $500, but I said $300, take it or leave it. She was grossly undervalued. She was abt 26, 165, 50Kg, very fair, natural C n had the most proportionate body. Beautiful round n perky ass. Long, slim legs n small bony frame. She was very orgasmic n sexually aggressive...she allowed me to take pics n video. She couldn't get a student visa to return to SG. Went to KL, M'sia instead n subsequently married a rich Chinese man in his late 20s or early 30s. He had a chauffeur-driven Bentley. I hv shown her pics to a few bros.

I know it's impossible to find such bargain now.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Old 27-09-2014, 10:10 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Today go a KTV at Larvendar, totally disappointed. Small shop, girls buttery fly, even though my friend order 4 bottles of martiel for us, but only finished half bottle, at the end ask the girl whether want to ST, she say don't.

Give her 50 and go back, totally not worth, and will not go again, plus I am not a like singing person.
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Old 28-09-2014, 08:57 PM
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Today go a KTV at Larvendar, totally disappointed. Small shop, girls buttery fly, even though my friend order 4 bottles of martiel for us, but only finished half bottle, at the end ask the girl whether want to ST, she say don't.

Give her 50 and go back, totally not worth, and will not go again, plus I am not a like singing person.
Bro haycouth,

I know there r a number of small joints there. But why would your friend open 4bottles of Martell? How much for the liquor?

When a girl says no ST, it may mean that she wants more than the usual rates haha. If you're really interested in her, take her out to dinner n find out.

Cheers!

.............................................

Good evening!

A bro sent me a PM:

"Hi bro. Haven't logged in for the past 2 days.

Well, I've just cheong ktv recently and I got to know this vietnamese girl. Things were intense and intimate, I thought we something special. Until recently I went to find her again and she took me for granted. Turns out that she's just another money driven girl. Lesson learnt the hard way.

Perhaps because of the fact that I'm young, I'm easily kced whenever a WL gives me special treatment. I've tried to find other girls but it's somehow hard to forget her. Can you please share how do I move on from here? I know she's not worth it but my emotion tells me otherwise."

My answer:

"Dear bro,

I'm been KC-ed in my younger days n again 6 yrs ago, when I restarted my engine to cheong after a long hiatus.

Girls who work at KTVs/HFJs r out to make money asap. It's strictly business. They r heartless n very difficult to KC. Of course you can turn the table by making them sexually n emotionally addicted to u. But this will take time even if you're a sex god.

My advice is to find as many girls as possible, never get fixated on one girl. Your girl is not special n she has not given u special treatment.

By getting KC-ed, you become a low status male n lose all ur power to her. Your neediness n desperation are repulsive n drive her farthur away...

I like u to read the following by a guru:

"A lot of guys suffer from the one special girl syndrome...They get stuck on the idea of that one special girl and they put all hope in her. In fact, when guys successfully pick up an attractive woman they tend to stop doing pick up altogether thinking they have found that special one.

When you have females in abundance...You will never put too much effort into getting that one special girl to like you. Which means you will automatically demonstrate all the traits of a high value male.

Once you get a taste of what it’s like with these other new girls...You will never ever think of the old girl as that one special princess.

But you will only know this when you actually go out and meet other women. So if you find yourself giving unnecessary special treatment to a certain girl...Just go out and date more girls.

However, you might still say...Well I can’t seem to get over this one special girl...How do I get her to like me?

Well first, ask yourself...Why doesn’t she already like you? What have you done so far, which made her, avoid you this way?


You see the best way to get a girl to desire you fast is to not care about her attention at all.

And that’s the interesting thing...Girls like to chase a guy who doesn’t chase them.

When you don’t put too much hope in just one woman...And start exploring more options she would instantly start feeling attraction towards you because you aren’t playing easy as you used to before.
"

Yes, the best attitude is if u don't give a damn. You don't care what she thinks or what anyone else thinks.

Cheers n good luck!

Bro WB

To all bros,

I hv an outing to TAM 2nd fl SH tomorrow Monday, starting at 9pm. Bro A n I hv a bttle. Estimated expense per pax $60. Only one last slot left, Pls cfm ASAP.
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Old 29-09-2014, 06:23 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

That is something I also puzzle, my friend need to go early cause 2nd day morning send wife off.

Before he left, he ordered another 3 bottles of martiel and made it four nos, spend 800 plus.

We also did not stay long, only finished half bottle.
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Old 29-09-2014, 10:35 PM
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Bro WB

when is the next outing ? .... Jio leh
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Old 30-09-2014, 03:08 PM
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That is something I also puzzle, my friend need to go early cause 2nd day morning send wife off.

Before he left, he ordered another 3 bottles of martiel and made it four nos, spend 800 plus.

We also did not stay long, only finished half bottle.
Bro hayouth,

Baffling behaviour. Perhaps he likes to leave a strong impression haha.

Cheers!

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Bro WB

when is the next outing ? .... Jio leh
Bro,

Probably coming Thursday. HH at TAM 3rd fl. I hv a bttle which is 80% full haha. Your HP no?

.................................................. .....

Good afternoon,

My outing to TAM 2nd fl for SH last night was very enjoyable. There were four of us: Bros A, S, K n WB.

Bros A n WB had a bttle from previous outing. Bros S n K paid $60 each n bros A n WB $30 each. Every bro had a girl haha.

We booked the rm using mummy NK. Didn't use HT cuz she is usually too busy during SH. She dropped by to say hello. I hv known NK for almost 6 yrs. Never tipped her more than $50. Yet she has been so effusive in praising me n telling the girls how well I hv taken care of my mistresses, and how lucky if they become mine, not just last night, but every chance she got. Have I hypnotized her? How much should I tip her?? Hahaha...

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:21 PM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Good afternoon!

I hv two outings to TAM, Havelock Rd tomorrow Thursday.

HH on 3rd fl. Expected expense per pax around $60-70.

SH on 2nd fl. Expected expense per pax around $60-70.

I'll call mummy HT for HH n mummy NK for SH hahaha.

Slots are limited, pls confirm asap.

Cheers!

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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

[QUOTE=warbird;11874280]
When you have females in abundance...You will never put too much effort into getting that one special girl to like you. Which means you will automatically demonstrate all the traits of a high value male. (Yes! you are right when I was in Hanoi Boss KTV mummy send round after round of girls for us to choose my friends quickly pick up girls but for me I don't care a dam and the end the good looking mummy got attract to me.)

[SIZE="4"]And that’s the interesting thing...Girls like to chase a guy who doesn’t chase them. (You are right base on my experiences but you must have a something that attract their attention.)

Yes, the best attitude is if u don't give a damn. You don't care what she thinks or what anyone else thinks. (You are absolutely right this happen on me and must know what will attract girls.)
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:10 PM
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When you have females in abundance...You will never put too much effort into getting that one special girl to like you. Which means you will automatically demonstrate all the traits of a high value male. (Yes! you are right when I was in Hanoi Boss KTV mummy send round after round of girls for us to choose my friends quickly pick up girls but for me I don't care a dam and the end the good looking mummy got attract to me.)

[SIZE="4"]And that’s the interesting thing...Girls like to chase a guy who doesn’t chase them. (You are right base on my experiences but you must have a something that attract their attention.)

Yes, the best attitude is if u don't give a damn. You don't care what she thinks or what anyone else thinks. (You are absolutely right this happen on me and must know what will attract girls.)
Bro AAconnection,

You're right. But most men will never understand and/or believe this cardinal rule.

Cheers!

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I posted the following on my other thread:

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tam gal tips how much one?

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150 -200 no butterfly wan right?

Bro,

Some girls at TAM n Dynasty will do butterfly, if u hv a very deep soothing voice n speak dominantly n slowly...haha.

Pls see post #354 for how much to tip the girls.

I'll summarize here:

Bro,

HH=Happy Hour, SH=Standard Hour, ST=Short Time (one shot deal), BY=Bao Yang, KIV=Keep In View (Code words for the mummy to get a girl's ctc when I hv a mistress sitting or standing next to me).

Damage for booking girls:

TAM joints: $150 for HH n $200 for SH.

Dynasty Classic: $100 for HH n $150 for SH.

Some girls may want more. Always ask first.

There is such a thing as Late SH 晚晚场,but I don't know the rates.

Cheers!

Bro WB

...........................................

Good morning!

I had HH n SH sessions at TAM yesterday. I hv tried to reduce the friction cost to the minimum.

If I hv to open a new bottle at TAM, the expense per pax for HH will be around $70 to $90 n SH, $100 to $135. If I hv a bottle left, it'll be much cheaper, especially for bros who attended the session when the new bottle was opened.

I always try to optimize the number of kakis for the size of the room. My kakis want me to welcome bros who are:

1) Very light drinkers

2) Will show up if confirmed

3) Go after attractive girls of their type for ST or BY

4) Smoke outside the room

5) Pay at the end of the session in cash

Last night's bros were lucky as I had a left over bottle for HH n SH. Expense per pax for HH bros who had a claim to the bottle, $20, those w/o $70. For SH bros, $10 n $50, respectively. There were more new bros for SH which reduced the cost haha.

I just received a PM from a bro:

<<<<<<Dear Bro Warbird,

I have went through 200 plus pages of your thread. it is awesome. Thank you for sharing your wonderful insight.. I have heard that a good 90 percent of Tiananmen girls would be willingly to do ST if price is right ( above 1k) . Do you think is true? Appreciate if you could share experience on it .Thanks>>>>>>

Dear bro XX,

Thanks for ur compliments. You make my day!!!

I would say the figure is about 80-85%. The other 10-15% only want BY. The remaining 5% or so?? They are strict lesbians!

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:24 PM
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Bro WB, looks like I don't qualify to join you guys....
Dear bro marc5,

My kakis and I go to TAM and other KTVs (and often in the vicinity but OUTSIDE the joints ) for one purpose only: To find "very attractive girls" of our type.

My outings are very democratic and I want to make sure EVERY bro gets equitable n fair treatment. Most of them want to spend the minimum on friction cost. If one bro n his gal drink the whole bottle, one or more bottles will be opened and the other bros will become very upset. Because I will hv just increased their expected expense per pax by 75% or more.

Smokers are requested to smoke outside the room so that other bros will not get second smoke which is very harmful to their health.

Bro, you can become a very light drinker DURING the outing. And you can smoke outside the rm. Bro S is a great kaki n he always smokes outside the room.

Best,

Bro WB

....................................

Good afternoon,

I have an outing to TAM 3rd fl Happy Hr Wednesday, 8 Oct. Expected expense per pax is about $60 if we hv 7 bros, $70 if we hv 6 bros.

PM or SMS me if interested. Pls confirm asap.

Thank you!

Bro WB
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Fantastic thread by Bro WB...guess the objectives are the same..as in i like to drink little, don't really smoke, keep spending low and look for chicks to go ST asap...hehe....see if I can make time to join you in one of the sessions. You guys don't mind singing songs right?
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Fantastic thread by Bro WB...guess the objectives are the same..as in i like to drink little, don't really smoke, keep spending low and look for chicks to go ST asap...hehe....see if I can make time to join you in one of the sessions. You guys don't mind singing songs right?
Bro Rain-Men,

You are my ideal kaki!

Yes, get chicks for ST or BY asap.

Pls sing as much as u want! I don't sing, but I greatly enjoy singing by both men n women.

Cheers!

Bro WB

.........................................

Good morning!

My first visit to a KTV was just over 6 yrs ago. I met a 20 yo pretty SYT w/ a body to die for. No ST at any price. I thought a lao chee ko pek like me had zero chance of getting her pussy. I had such a self-defeating n negative attitude! She won't even look at me while talking n she flatly rejected BY. She hung up on me several times...to cut a long story short, she is my current LT mistress n she now wants to bear my children.

If a girl rejects u or says that you're NOT her type, don't be perturbed. Remain very relaxed n confident...don't throw in the towel, EVER, but never become needy n desperate, which will drive her further away.

Here is an email from a female Ang Moh guru:

Hi Bro Warbird,

What does it mean when a woman says, "You're not

my type"?



What is she judging that on?



Typically, it's her initial, gut reaction and,

unfortunately, may be based somewhat on looks, age,

her desires (what she thinks her desires are),

etc....



But, I'm going to tell you something that few

women realize.....



Very, very, very few women know "they're type" and,

more so, her "type" can be changed.



How many times have you heard a woman say....



"I never thought I'd be attracted to him, but we

fell in love...."



"He's the last type of man I thought I'd go for,

but I found him irresistible...."



"I didn't really like him at first, but now I

can't imagine my life without him...."



It happens all of the time.



But what makes her change her mind and not care

if he's "her type" or not?



Well, it goes back to a man's sexual character and

also something which I call, "Sexual Status".



You see, when a man shows a woman "sexual status"

and creates his "status" in her mind, that whole

idea she has of "her type" goes out the window.



She suddenly finds herself trying to explain why

she changed her mind or finds him attractive. Of

course, I've yet to hear a woman say, "Obviously

I didn't know what type of man I was looking for",

but that's exactly what happened.



So, if a woman tells you, "You're not my type"....

you can change her mind and there is time to

change her mind. Don't give up, don't allow it

to bother you.



If anything, you can chuckle inside, to yourself,

knowing that there is a great chance she has no

clue what her type really is.



Likewise, if you're online searching the profiles of

women, pay no attention to all of her guidelines

and desires in a man. While it is a bit harder to

demonstrate your sexual status online, in written

form, still give it a shot.



The bottom line is this: A woman wants a man who

makes her feel intense emotion, excitement about

life, and makes her feel protected, secure yet....

always on her toes, knowing she has to "earn" the

right to keep him in her life.... When a man is

able to establish this excitement, intense

emotion, and also use her competitive nature to his

advantage, then "her type" of a certain height,

hair color, income bracket, romantic fantasy, etc...

is as good as gone.


Your friend,

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