Vietnam - HCM (Thread 3)

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

As to what motivates people to go to certain destination or another, I of course wouldn’t dare to even guess; but for me, it is like what Hurricane88 says is his primary motivation – and that is to go to “the source” for the best experiences.
Again thanks for taking the trouble to so brilliantly explain to me. Kudos!

SEAJ

haha...absolutely...concurred with bro Natto3 too...but one thing what MC said is true...once we post our usual playground...the chiongsters will go in and try to spoil market...many told me they will not but here tell you my country men sinkies always over-pay...thus spoiling the playground making them expensives...but then MC and me agreed that we dun post local playground openly...haha...and I put a leash on my frens not to over-pay...if I knew anyone over-pay I shall leave the guy alone...no more next time...

those frens who went to those local playground also will not post openly...haha..in fact most dun know how to go...because all I did was to tell the taxi driver turn left turn right then turn left again...

[sailsingapore]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

I party in HCM to late and ever walk on the street 3-4 am with my girl. Nothing happen.

You even go to B-day Party till 5am wif your girl & spray bia ... no prob

[throne]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

The problem is you just "heard" and assume.

I will not comment unless personally you have been robbed or scam.
Singapore also have scam and robbing. We even have terrorists. However when I am in HCM, I feel more at home.

I party in HCM to late and ever walk on the street 3-4 am with my girl. Nothing happen.

Maybe you can say what you encounter......as u encounter some.....

If for me, I encounter once, and I will not return....... Yet you encounter some and still go?..?

My 1st trip, I was walking around near jetty side. 1 guy approached me and ask if I want girl, I say no n walk away. While crossing road, he walk in front of me. When I reached the other side, he grab my hand and say I need pay him for 'guiding' the traffic, I refused. Then few guys walk over from a distance towards us. Speaking vn language that I don't understand, I pay him 20k and they all left.

Same trip, I visited Vien Dong and my locker was picked and some $ was stolen from my wallet, my fault for not being careful.

A local friend of mine went bank n withdraw $ to buy a bike. He was knocked down and robbed. Likely a tipped off from someone inside the bank..

Taking pictures on the road will get phone snatched. Safe??? Try a selfie in taiwan, japan hk your phone is still safe.

You mentioned some time back about someone got robbed naked in his hotel room...

If I had bad experience, why do I go back?
I learn, I grow I moved on. I go where I wish to visit and not stopped by bad experience. But by saying HCMC is safe.. I don't agree.

Maybe our standards of safe is different. You feel, you go relax. I don't feel safe, I take my own precaution. I do not wish to extend this argument. For those that goes HCMC 1st time. You judge yourself.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

one thing what MC said is true...once we post our usual playground...the chiongsters will go in and try to spoil market............then MC and me agreed that we dun post local playground openly...haha...and I put a leash on my frens ...

Yowzer….totally agree, but the unfortunate thing is that SBF is not the only board and mongers are always quick to scoop down on any fertile hunting grounds. The age of the internet has brought about both advantages as well as disadvantages.

As I think you know, I am quite liberal with the sharing of any information/insight I have as a way of repaying others for allowing me to learn from their contributions. This worked well until I started on this board and I guess encroached on the nefarious agenda of some in Chang Ping, led by a “stealth agent” who pretends to just be a regular Samster to ensnare others to “join him”….. whilst just basically robbing them. This agent is so skillful that he has a loyal band of sycophants who - knowingly or unknowingly - support his thieving, led by one who thinks himself as some sex crusader or… ?? but who is nothing more than the typical Zero to Hero and who pathetically lives to be addressed as “taikor” on this board.

This merry band of thieves I guess resents that I made it somehow easier even for newbies to negotiate Chang Ping by themselves and attacked me by ganging up, deploying their massive arsenal of clones, mass zapped (I estimate I must have been zapped at least 500-700 points) and tried to make my presence on this board intolerable. But it was so bad that a couple of their members themselves got disgusted and spilled the beans on them, proving my assertion that for every thief/crap member here, there are many others who are decent and honorable gentlemen. Unfortunately, indications are that this agent and his gang of goons are now trying to relocate and establish their operations in Thailand/elsewhere as Chang Ping is now dead.

There is always a space and a need for good, honest agents to operate in any location to make an honest living – and in fact I take my hat off to them as I know that this job is NOT an easy vocation. And even if newbies already learn a lot from boards, this does NOT lessen the need for agents; in fact, I’d even suggest that it should instead make mongers realize that it’s best to engage an agent to negotiate through the maze of intrigue whilst mongering in new destinations.

And as for your worry that too much information will eventually kill your playground – well, this was precisely what I was worried about when I read what this Agent and his idiot acolytes were up to in Chang Ping. These zeroes all love to show off and this agent was encouraging them to spend BIG at the KTV’s (of course, as he was getting indecently high kick –backs etc.) and even had a culture going on where they were addressing each other as “taikors” to keep everybody in line. During the past couple or so years, prices in Chang Ping had exploded upwards accompanied by a downward spiral in the attitude and service of the providers. It was when I tried to reason with them that Chang Ping operators all love to exploit insecurities that the campaign against me started.

But specific to your HCMC playground, I believe/hope that you will not have too much to worry about; for one, most mongers on this board I would think, do not speak Vietnamese (as opposed to Chang Ping and Putonghua), and secondly (and more importantly), your and others presence on here reminding visitors to your shores to NOT overpay etc. will be effective as you do moderate well to ensure that Talking Cock agents and his ilk will not be allowed to pollute the Vietnamese threads.

And if all of us decided to “withhold” information – then what’s the point of having a forum? Just to TCSS? The Chang Ping thread had degenerated down to precisely this, with these idiots only talking about how many girls they sat (tell me what’s the point of sitting 8 girls?), how much liquor they consumed, pictures of stacks of cash, congratulating and patting each other’s back, how drunk they got, how expensive their Duty Free liquor was etc.; pages and pages of totally inane and useless TCSS.

Just IMHO of course/Thanks

SEAJ

[humhum]

I think I know the reason, u must have dress and behave like a typical sinkie, a carrot head and so become easy target to rogue whereas others like mifacafe and naemlo are street smart, act and behave like vietnamese.

Originally Posted by throne

Maybe our standards of safe is different. You feel, you go relax. I don't feel safe, I take my own precaution. I do not wish to extend this argument. For those that goes HCMC 1st time. You judge yourself.

[MIFAcafe]

1. Given 20k.... you call this scam or robbing? I tip gal 50k.

2. You already say it is your fault.....case closed.

3. A snatch thief... Singapore also have.

4. Same about snatch thief.... who the hell take selfie on while walking on road.
I take selfie too; but tourist area; my phone still with me.

5. This twit rob by his own gal. That story that amuse me..... it is to warn Sinkee not to date gals working in Singapore as WL.

I have yet to see a traffic accident in HCM, in Singapore you always see cars crashes.....

And about going back hotel at 4am; I did it on the first trip back in June 2013. I will not do it, if I find HCM unsafe.

Not argument.... exchanging my views with your views..... I just write what I see....

Don't worry; just stick to what you feel........

It is simply you say it is not safe city; and I say it is safe city..... no big deal.

Originally Posted by throne

1. I pay him 20k and they all left.

2, my locker was picked and some $ was stolen from my wallet, my fault for not being careful.

3, A local friend of mine went bank n withdraw $ to buy a bike. He was knocked down and robbed. Likely a tipped off from someone inside the bank..

4.Taking pictures on the road will get phone snatched. Safe??? Try a selfie in taiwan, japan hk your phone is still safe.

5,You mentioned some time back about someone got robbed naked in his hotel room...

If I had bad experience, why do I go back?
I learn, I grow I moved on. I go where I wish to visit and not stopped by bad experience. But by saying HCMC is safe.. I don't agree.

Maybe our standards of safe is different. You feel, you go relax. I don't feel safe, I take my own precaution. I do not wish to extend this argument. For those that goes HCMC 1st time. You judge yourself.

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

It is simply you say it is not safe city; and I say it is safe city..... no big deal.

We should tell others only Singapore is safe, dun get out of it... Let us risk and enjoy what is outside Singapore.

During protest and curfew in Thailand, a lot has been asking "is it safe?" My answer, "very dangerous, dun come".......

[MIFAcafe]

It is natural for people to think HCM thread is about cheong in HCM.

I talk to H88 before; we can change the nature of the thread.

Thanks to this thread; a lot of willing donors show great support. We are now doing charity in HCM. At the same time we travel together to HCM to do good deed. (we will return in late July to post what we have done.....)

We are meeting up with people with common view and interest to share and learn.

We also travel outside HCM and put information about how to travel outside and how to enjoy city like Can Tho; Da Nang; Hoi An etc.

Just because it is a sex forum; not every post I write is regarding sex.

HCM is more than a place to find sex...................just look deeper.

If HCM thread die down one day; so be it. Maybe because we are so busy playing in HCM that we got no time to participate.

It is just a forum; it is the quality of people that participate that count.

And for the lack of FR; I will post FR only when I ask a WL to go LT; but the way I see thing; it will be a long long time before that happen.

Originally Posted by SEAJ

And if all of us decided to “withhold” information – then what’s the point of having a forum? Just to TCSS? The Chang Ping thread had degenerated down to precisely this, with these idiots only talking about how many girls they sat (tell me what’s the point of sitting 8 girls?), how much liquor they consumed, pictures of stacks of cash, congratulating and patting each other’s back, how drunk they got, how expensive their Duty Free liquor was etc.; pages and pages of totally inane and useless TCSS.

Just IMHO of course/Thanks

SEAJ

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

But specific to your HCMC playground, I believe/hope that you will not have too much to worry about; for one, most mongers on this board I would think, do not speak Vietnamese (as opposed to Chang Ping and Putonghua), and secondly (and more importantly), your and others presence on here reminding visitors to your shores to NOT overpay etc. will be effective as you do moderate well to ensure that Talking Cock agents and his ilk will not be allowed to pollute the Vietnamese threads.

And if all of us decided to “withhold” information – then what’s the point of having a forum? Just to TCSS?
SEAJ

see...Vietnam is still communist and joints like bbbj cafe, bbbj saloons, some local bia oms, fj shops...all are illegal and cannot expect to open such legal shops in Vn because the Authorities dun allow such licenses and operations...so they went underground...if these playgrounds are limited to locals and some locals shared with us...then why do we share them openly here in the forum/board...knowing that it will be raided and closed down once too many are visiting and over-paying...we dun know if the GA is also reading this forum...we will not share local playground openly...we dun want the playground to be closed just because of some chiongsters...

that is why we only share or bring frens to play in local playground...and informed not to over-pay...the locals may need to go every few days/week...so dun spoil local playground...

BTW, I dun charge anyone any fees because we are frens...but must see my schedule and my itinerary to see if I am free to go...

for frens who keen to show off and pay extra...we controlled frens from over-paying but instead we donate to local Charities...and so more meaningful...

[MIFAcafe]

I brought my parent to HCM 3 weeks after riot in HCM......

My parent ask me why they cannot see any sign of anger toward Chinese.....

I told them; it is just like Singapore news...... control media. Everything you hear must discount 70%.

Originally Posted by naemlo

We should tell others only Singapore is safe, dun get out of it... Let us risk and enjoy what is outside Singapore.

During protest and curfew in Thailand, a lot has been asking "is it safe?" My answer, "very dangerous, dun come".......

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by throne

My 1st trip, I was walking around near jetty side. 1 guy approached me and ask if I want girl, I say no n walk away. While crossing road, he walk in front of me. When I reached the other side, he grab my hand and say I need pay him for 'guiding' the traffic, I refused. Then few guys walk over from a distance towards us. Speaking vn language that I don't understand, I pay him 20k and they all left.

Same trip, I visited Vien Dong and my locker was picked and some $ was stolen from my wallet, my fault for not being careful.

A local friend of mine went bank n withdraw $ to buy a bike. He was knocked down and robbed. Likely a tipped off from someone inside the bank..

Taking pictures on the road will get phone snatched. Safe??? Try a selfie in taiwan, japan hk your phone is still safe.

You mentioned some time back about someone got robbed naked in his hotel room...

for every City there is always danger and whether you are target because of the clothes and things you wear...or the money you are showing off in public...even local Vietnamese are not spared...

danger signs in HCM
expensive watches, phones, tablets, camera, gold jewelleries...
taking out wallets in public

always advised frens to keep expensive things at home...dun bother to bring...and spilt the money in several pockets...take out small change to pay instead of taking wallets...

some of your examples above do happened everywhere and even sinkie land...if paying 20k can let a tout go away then i think this is just you are inexperienced...you should not be venturing around alone on your 1st trip...but at least you learned...

lockers getting picked and when your local fren come out from bank got robbed do happened not just in hcm...these we read about it everywhere can happened...

yes...do stay back in sinkie land if you dun feel safe to travel...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by MIFAcafe

It is natural for people to think HCM thread is about cheong in HCM.

I talk to H88 before; we can change the nature of the thread.

Thanks to this thread; a lot of willing donors show great support. We are now doing charity in HCM. At the same time we travel together to HCM to do good deed. (we will return in late July to post what we have done.....)

We are meeting up with people with common view and interest to share and learn.

We also travel outside HCM and put information about how to travel outside and how to enjoy city like Can Tho; Da Nang; Hoi An etc.

Just because it is a sex forum; not every post I write is regarding sex.

HCM is more than a place to find sex...................just look deeper.

It is just a forum; it is the quality of people that participate that count.

And for the lack of FR; I will post FR only when I ask a WL to go LT; but the way I see thing; it will be a long long time before that happen.

haha...I support all your points above...well said...HCM is just not about sex...is about meeting frens who share common interests banding together to enjoy and relax with a drink...123 yo...cheers...

in my SELF HELP DIY...we had already included quite a few cities which we had visited...these are very nice places outside of HCM...take a look at that and plan your holidays...

[mutantchicken]

Dear seaj
My take on it is frankly there really is no point to these boards anymore in the early days there was no way to share info so these boards were created to share info amounts fellow sex adventurers now its filled with guys too lazy to use the search function or to use Google and like you said is filled with questions asked and answered million tines over posts by zero to hero's posting the most innane accomplishments and the lazy sycophants praising them because they have never left their parents houses so don't know what the world is out there like I have told others I am not willing to share any more unlike the old days when o discovered this board is filled with guys who take but never give back pm me if u want to exchange give me something I don't know and I'll give you something u don't know...fair exchange right...and like I told u via pm the other forum eg isg is equally infested with takers go there and see how much useful info is there apart from posts about overpaying at benny
Just as a point about unreported discoveries everyday I go get bbbj often with cim from different girls different shoos and different area for 100-150k I have also visit brothels for 800k and tried freelancer or gai goi who go from 300-500..I have sent h88 and atlasshrugg and a few others pic of these girls and the all 6*5-8s
PS I think its unrealistic to expect those who know due to self discovery spending time and money to share just because they can then the rest talk about sharing..sharing is a two way street what you are describing is charity

[dogstar]

Originally Posted by throne

My 1st trip, I was walking around near jetty side. 1 guy approached me and ask if I want girl, I say no n walk away. While crossing road, he walk in front of me. When I reached the other side, he grab my hand and say I need pay him for 'guiding' the traffic, I refused. Then few guys walk over from a distance towards us. Speaking vn language that I don't understand, I pay him 20k and they all left.

Same trip, I visited Vien Dong and my locker was picked and some $ was stolen from my wallet, my fault for not being careful.

A local friend of mine went bank n withdraw $ to buy a bike. He was knocked down and robbed. Likely a tipped off from someone inside the bank..

Taking pictures on the road will get phone snatched. Safe??? Try a selfie in

taiwan, japan hk your phone is still safe.

You mentioned some time back about someone got robbed naked in his hotel room...

If I had bad experience, why do I go back?
I learn, I grow I moved on. I go where I wish to visit and not stopped by bad experience. But by saying HCMC is safe.. I don't agree.

Maybe our standards of safe is different. You feel, you go relax. I don't feel safe, I take my own precaution. I do not wish to extend this argument. For those that goes HCMC 1st time. You judge yourself.

return up

[repsoi]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

You need to pay the a few registration fees include number plate...think the Honda Air-Blade will cost 43-45mil to be on the road...can always go to the shops to ask...

Oh ya there is also registration fees and number plate. now i remember i did pay additional for those too back then.
Thanks for ur reply.