Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

[beck7777]

Not the best performance in the 1st half, I feel...

Lack of ideas in attack, passing not crisp or fast enough.. In fact I see to many long balls...

It took a moment of brillance from Torres to give us the lead...

Hopefully we can up a gear in the 2nd half and grab a 2nd goal fast so we can rest key players for the packed xmas matches...

[beck7777]

Crappy Liverpool performance!

We cant even pass properly, let alone attack..

And we are very LUCKY to win it.. Maybe its the kinda luck we need as bro KingEuro mentioned earlier...
But if we need luck to win Derby, we need luck x MANY MANY times to win the league...

Some might say it was a great run and attack by Gerrard but should we need it in the 1st place?
Shouldnt we have played to kill the game early?

Cerdit to Derby but then it was really a poor game by Liverpool standard...

Hope to see an improve side when facing Man City..

[joochiatplace]

Agreed with Bro beck7777, the player can't pass well..Hope Hypia is ok for MC match..

[KingEros]

Lucky?? Definitely, coz we could easily have ended with just 1 point ... instead of 3.
Unlucky?? To a certain extent ... coz Torres & company should have put away a couple more goals, if not for that young keeper standing up to the plate (on his own, coz the rest of his defence was more interested in running their own players down) ... not to mention Gerrard hitting only the cross-bar when the keeper was finally beaten.

But what's really infuriating is that the whole lot of them made the match much much more difficult than it needed to be ... with their lack of zest.

Dunno why Hobbs was not on the bench, but the rot started with Riise having to cover as centre-half for Hyypia ... from there on, the team was never a balanced one.
Other than that, I am still of the opinion that both Gerrard & Alonso cannot play in the middle at the same time. To accommodate Alonso, Gerrard has to drop deep ... that's why there's no thrust.

But there was indeed a most heartening moment ... seeing Mascherano, in his tracksuit, run half the length of the grounds to embrace Gerrard after he put away that deserving winner. The lad is in love with Liverpool FC ... if he's not with us come Feb, it's all the doings of the Yanks.

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by Regaine

So was last night win based on luck?

Originally Posted by rahl

Nah, King probably had a good bonk!

Originally Posted by Regaine

Still no sight and sound from the King?

Hmmm ... you 2 got me totally lost here.
& I always thought ... only during 中秋节, the people play 猜灯谜??

[SKILLFULL LICK]

Originally Posted by beck7777

Crappy Liverpool performance!

We cant even pass properly, let alone attack..

And we are very LUCKY to win it.. Maybe its the kinda luck we need as bro KingEuro mentioned earlier...
But if we need luck to win Derby, we need luck x MANY MANY times to win the league...

Some might say it was a great run and attack by Gerrard but should we need it in the 1st place?
Shouldnt we have played to kill the game early?

Cerdit to Derby but then it was really a poor game by Liverpool standard...

Hope to see an improve side when facing Man City..

hehe..bro,bag in 3 pts no complain lah..luck is wat they need during their off day,besides derby got a new manager,standing at the basement of the league they need to fight 4 survival also.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by KingEros

Other than that, I am still of the opinion that both Gerrard & Alonso cannot play in the middle at the same time. To accommodate Alonso, Gerrard has to drop deep ... that's why there's no thrust.

Heheh, ok back to business. That's an interesting point about the Gerrard-Alonso axis. Will be sad if it's generally true as both of them are world class players. Alonso played well individually but if the team suffers, then something has to be done.

All credit to Derby for picking themselves up and giving us a hard time. We should have never been in that position, 1-0 up and then having to frantically find a winner in the last 20 mins. Plain to see that we under-estimated them after the opening goal. Voro, Babel, even Torres after his goal, all had days to forget.

[evilspawnsss]

Originally Posted by SKILLFULL LICK

standing at the basement of the league they need to fight 4 survival also.

Yeah i oso feel so..Relagation team always fight when its coming 2nd half of the season..and its always they play poorly when meet up with lower team..anyway 3 pts is good..all the best for this sun against Man city

[Cum_Luver]

fellow Kop, crappy or lousy performance, a win is still a win.
most important is 3 pts to add to our total points.
sometimes, when we played those exciting and beautiful matches, we dun get the points, we deserved.

it is always not good playing those bottom clubs as they will fight for everything.
to win the EPL, you do need some luck.

[canthaveenuf]

It certainly wasn’t a pretty performance. We seldom ever win a game and yet didn’t play good. Normally, it is either -- 1) we play well, we win, or 2) we play well, we lose, or 3) we play badly, we lose. Three points is all that matters. To win the BPL sometimes we just need to win uglily, just like Chelsea do.

Good to see that Alonso is back at his best spreading the ball around. Just love seeing him spraying those accurate passes across the pitch.

Defence was a bit shaky after Hyppia left. A lot of passes from defence went astray. Wonder when Agger is coming back. We really need more cover at the back.

Wonder when is Pennant coming back? We are lacking someone who can pump good balls from the wings. Babel is not doing it well enough.

Cheers

[Regaine]

Originally Posted by beck7777

Crappy Liverpool performance!

We cant even pass properly, let alone attack..

And we are very LUCKY to win it.. Maybe its the kinda luck we need as bro KingEuro mentioned earlier...
But if we need luck to win Derby, we need luck x MANY MANY times to win the league...

Last night my heart almost stop beating when I see Liverpool like that . Rafa made five changes again. No wonder there was no consistency.

Originally Posted by joochiatplace

Agreed with Bro beck7777, the player can't pass well..Hope Hypia is ok for MC match..

What do you expect when there are so many changes in the team.They don't know each other that well.

Originally Posted by KingEros

Lucky?? Definitely, coz we could easily have ended with just 1 point ... instead of 3.
Unlucky?? To a certain extent ... coz Torres & company should have put away a couple more goals, if not for that young keeper standing up to the plate (on his own, coz the rest of his defence was more interested in running their own players down) ... not to mention Gerrard hitting only the cross-bar when the keeper was finally beaten.

But what's really infuriating is that the whole lot of them made the match much much more difficult than it needed to be ... with their lack of zest.

Again we win by LUCK . Last night game should be an easy game. But Derby really played well at Anfield. They almost got a draw from us.

Originally Posted by rahl

All credit to Derby for picking themselves up and giving us a hard time. We should have never been in that position, 1-0 up and then having to frantically find a winner in the last 20 mins. Plain to see that we under-estimated them after the opening goal. Voro, Babel, even Torres after his goal, all had days to forget.

LUCKY to win.

Originally Posted by evilspawnsss

Yeah i oso feel so..Relagation team always fight when its coming 2nd half of the season..and its always they play poorly when meet up with lower team..anyway 3 pts is good..all the best for this sun against Man city

Bro I also hope they win. But Man City had an unbeaten home record. The way Liverpool played last night should be a wake up call for Liverpool.

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by Regaine

Rafa made five changes again.
No wonder there was no consistency.
What do you expect when there are so many changes in the team.
They don't know each other that well.

Why do you keep thinking & saying that huh??
As professionals, they train & eat with each other every single day (except on match days) ... eat, sleep & play together on match days.
You think this is like your Sunday team who doesn't train & just meet up each weekend to play social matches??

They know exactly WHAT Rafa wants from each of them.
They also understand WHY Rafa choose to be pioneer this whole concept of rotation.

The only difficult part (not confusing part, as you so frequently call it) is ... for these players to bring it on & play as how Rafa wants, on the infrequent occasions when they are called upon.

Originally Posted by Regaine

Bro I also hope they win. But Man City had an unbeaten home record. The way Liverpool played last night should be a wake up call for Liverpool.

Wrong ... Man City home record reads played: 9 & won: 9.
It's a 100% home record ... the only one left in the Premier League.
The 9 teams who had no answers at the Man City Stadium are: Derby (1-0), Scums (1-0), Villa (1-0), Newcastle (3-1), Boro (3-1), Birmingham (1-0), Sunderland (1-0), Reading (2-1) & Bolton (4-2) ...

In their most recent home game, Bolton almost clinched it but allowed Man City to crawl back ... other than that, most of their home victories are scrappy 1-0 wins.
So, it's gonna be tough ... but we will win.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by Regaine

Last night my heart almost stop beating when I see Liverpool like that . Rafa made five changes again. No wonder there was no consistency.

What do you expect when there are so many changes in the team.They don't know each other that well.

Bro, if you are serious about the rotation argument and not just using it as a convenient scapegoat, give us some serious argument and evidence.

- compile a list of our matches this season and the results.

- list player rotations.

- state which 'new' player played well in the team.

- state which 'new' player did poorly in the team.

- state how the rotation might have affected team performance as a whole, citing individual players' team contributions.

Onus of proof lies with the accuser.

Regardless of how good the argument is, if you compile such a list, I will give you credit for that.

[rahl]

Originally Posted by KingEros

Why do you keep thinking & saying that huh??
As professionals, they train & eat with each other every single day (except on match days) ... eat, sleep & play together on match days.
You think this is like your Sunday team who doesn't train & just meet up each weekend to play social matches??

Nah, players are isolated in their own cells by the gaffer and only meet up with one another on match day. You don't know Rafa's isolation policy meh? Hehe.

[Sarcasm mode off]

Just to give an idea of the complexity of the whole rotation issue, two players who were not rotated - Stevie and Torres - had mixed games against Derby. Both scored, both were brilliant individual goals.

But Stevie was anonymous for much of the second half and as captain did not effectively organise the team, which was awful until the 70th minute. Torres for much of the game after his goal drifted in and out and his first touch was poor on several occasions.

I agree Voro and Babel, who came into the team as 'rotatees', were poor but would they have played better if given a consistent run in the first XI? Would they have better understanding with their team-mates? I prefer not to speculate with hypothetical situations.

Anyway, I'm just looking forward to the next match with great anticipation. Rotation won't be on my mind.

[rahl]

PS. Hopefully everyone realises we are 1 point closer to the top of the table.