Hatyai,Thailand For Sawadee Newbies

Bro KLCOOL,

I did not close the deal finally as she went with me with no talk of any deal. So in essence, I actually perceive it to be have been free. I did however, decide to give her (not pay her) some money (FYI 5,000 Baht as I think she was worth it) just as I was leaving Hatyai and she did not ask for anything.

Just for the sake of understanding the history of it, I was there a few weeks ago and offered to pay for this dancer. The mamasan and my friends made the offer for me as my pasa thai is non existant. The offer went up to 10,000 but she still said no. I got her number and have been in touch since and she promised to see me if I went up again, which I did.

Frankly, I am not sure if she takes offers on the side and if I was just unlucky the first time round, but based on my experience, she was extremely inexperienced in bed and really felt like a virgin if you know what I mean. So sex was actually quite a bad experience (and actually painful for me even) in that sense. I am however, extremely happy still because I could "dapat" something I could not get in the end.

Originally Posted by KLKOOL

bro krazeepete68... if the ger reject 10,000baht.... you offer higher ah?? Phew... must be some fatal attraction leh... (fatal to your wallet)... just out of curiosity... how much did u close the deal for?

[Soul_Reaper]

Originally Posted by KatoeyLover69

I feel that it is my moral and social obligation to keep our bros FULLY INFORMED about the actual weather situation in Haadyai day by day so that they can decide whether to go to Haadyai or not at this moment

Very good work bro KL69......however we have 2 bros stranded in Hatyai now. Luckily I was able to fly out just in time. If I had delayed another 2 hrs later I would have been stuck in Hatyai like them.

Wonder if they & bro TV are alright.


Soul_Reaper

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from The Nation dated Tuesday 20 December 2005 :-

HAT YAI MUST BE SAVED : THAKSIN

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra ordered officials yesterday to try to save Hat Yai, the commercial hub in the South, from its continuing flood crisis. “We have to protect the economic zone,” Thaksin said, after the Meteorological Department warned that run-off from mountains might raise floodwater levels in many southern provinces today and tomorrow.

The provinces at risk are Phatthalung, Songkhla, Pattani, Yala, Narathiwat, Trang and Satun, the department said.

Songkhla Governor Somporn Chaibangyang said yesterday the authorities were pulling out all stops to protect the business areas.

“We have managed to drastically lower floodwater levels at major markets in Hat Yai now,” he said.

He expressed confidence that the situation in Hat Yai district would soon return to normal – provided there was no more rain.

Thaksin said any structure that blocked the floodwater from draining away should be immediately removed.

On Sunday, he ordered the removal of several portions of railway track in Hat Yai district to allow water to drain away quickly.

However, the prime minister has yet to visit the flood-hit region, which has been drenched by heavy rains for the past two weeks.

Train and bus services between Hat Yai and the three southernmost provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat were suspended due to the raging floods.

An official at Hat Yai bus terminal said it was impossible to say when services could resume as it depended on the flood situation.

Serious floods have also disrupted the operations of several hospitals in the South.

In Pattani, Nong Chik Hospital has already been forced to close temporarily after being flooded to a depth of nearly two metres. Electricity to the hospital had to be cut off for safety reasons, prompting the transfer all of its inpatients to a hospital in Yala.

“Some medical equipment is submerged. The damage is estimated to be around Bt10 million,” said Dr Prat Boonyawongwirot, acting permanent secretary of the Public Health Ministry.

He said two heart patients were flown from a flood-hit hospital in Yala’s Yaha district to Yala Hospital on Sunday because flooding made land transport impossible.

“The patients are now in safe condition,” he added.

Prat said his ministry had already ordered mobile medical units to start reaching out to people as the persistent flooding looked set to increase the number of patients by 30 to 40 per cent.

Meanwhile, Songkhla Hospital director Dr Kamon Veerapradit said he was in close contact with two other hospitals in case patients need to be transferred if the flooding worsens.

In Hat Yai district, police warned flood victims to watch out for thieves posing as good Samaritans.

“They pretended to help carry things to higher ground for flood victims when in fact they took those things away,” said Colonel Pot Suaysuwan, superintendent at Hat Yai police station. Two convenience stores in the area had also been burgled, he said.

Several other districts in Songkhla remained heavily flooded yesterday. More than 13,500 families were affected in Ranot district, and more than 100,000 rai of land damaged. In Krasae Sin district, the floodwater was up to three metres deep in the worst-hit areas.

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from The Nation dated Tuesday 20 December 2005 :-

NEW YEAR DAMPENER: Flooding puts dent in Hat Yai’s economy

Tourism sector hit hard as Malaysians cancel trips; rubber prices seen rising. As many as 8,000 Malaysian tourists have cancelled their holiday plans or fled flooding in Hat Yai while some banks have closed branches, making for a gloomy New Year in the southern commercial hub.

“The amount of damage cannot be assessed now as flood levels are not yet stable. What we can say is that Hat Yai’s economic outlook has deteriorated and will be sluggish,” said Phong-Adul Kristnaraj, senior director of the Bank of Thailand’s southern branch.

He said the flooding had severely hurt business confidence in Hat Yai, which is particularly damaging with the approach of the New Year.

“The floods will hurt all businesses including tourism, agriculture and fishery. This will lead to less spending by locals,” he said, adding that the central bank would come up with assistance measures for businesses in the area.

According to Songchai Mungprasitthichai, chairman of the Songkhla tourist guides club, since Hat Yai was inundated by floodwater on Sunday afternoon, more than 5,000 Malaysian tourists in the city had cancelled their stays and returned home.

“Tour companies had to scramble for buses to evacuate them from the city,” he said.

Another 3,000 Malaysian tourists who had booked package tours also cancelled their reservations and demanded to be able to return home immediately.

“The floods have had a sudden impact on Hat Yai’s tourism industry. Malaysian group tours have already cancelled trips to join the city’s Christmas celebration, while tourists who booked New Year packages are deciding whether they should proceed with vacation plans,” Songchai said.

While it is reported water levels in the Hat Yai area have receded in some locations, key roads remain flooded under 20-30 centimetres of water. There is also the danger that water from Khlong U-Tapao, which burst its banks, could reach the city soon.

Over 90 per cent of shop owners in Kimyong Plaza have closed their doors, fearing goods could be damaged.

Siam Com-mercial Bank has closed three branches but said the damage it sustained was minor, as the branches had shut down their ATMs and other computer systems in advance of the flood.

Chartchai Srirassamee, executive vice president of Bangkok Bank, said the bank would keep all its branches in the city open.

“The situation is less severe than in the North earlier this year as only those on the outskirts of the city have been severely affected. However, transactions in the city have dropped dramatically. Our two branches reported transactions are only at 30-40 per cent of the usual level,” he said.

Brokerage houses with offices in Hat Yai’s business district are also considering contingency plans, where transactions will be redirected to Bangkok if provincial branches cannot operate as usual.

The officials said the number of orders had dropped due to flooding, while some staff could not get to work.

Kantara Ladawan na Ayudhya, deputy managing director of Syrus Securities Plc, said that its branches in the inner areas, which have so far escaped the floodwaters, were operating as usual.

“Still, we envision problems like blackouts for the city and orders will then be redirected to the head office but shareholders should not worry,” she said.

Kim Eng Securities (Thailand) owns two offices in the city but both were unaffected by the flood.

Kosit Boonruangkhao, deputy managing director of the company, said the head office had made preparations, and power permitting, its clients could still file orders via the Internet.

“I have to admit that volume has declined a bit, but it is in line with the overall market sentiment. Some investors have taken days off ahead of the New Year,” he said.

Reuters reported traders as saying that the floods and mudslides would bolster rubber prices in Asia due to weakening supplies, even as buyers hold back in hope of a cost retreat.

Weather officials said torrential downpours were expected to continue at least into early January.

The benchmark May rubber contract on the +++yo Commodity Exchange, which sets trends for global rubber prices, was up 6 yen per kg at 209 yen (Bt74), after trading between 206.0 to 209.0 yen. Other contracts rose between 5.4 and 6 yen. Offers to sell Thailand’s RSS3 rubber sheet were at Bt70 a kg free-on-board for January-February shipments, up from Bt68-Bt69 on Friday.

The price of Thai natural field latex, the raw material for 60 per cent of Thai concentrated latex, rose to between Bt62 to Bt65 a kg, from Bt61 to Bt62 last Friday.

Business Reporters
The Nation
Tuesday 20 December 2005

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from The Nation dated Tuesday 20 December 2005 :-

MANY SOUTHERN THAI PROVINCES STILL IN CRISIS MODE

Floods and heavy rains continue to cause havoc in southern Thailand, with many provinces in a state of crisis yesterday, according to local relief officials. The Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation said the floods had affected some 179,991 homes and 671,347 people overall in eight provinces between December 14 and Saturday (Dec 17).

Fifteen people were killed, including eight in Songkhla province, and three swept away by floodwater.

The floods damaged 225 houses, 463 roads, 14 bridges, 85,562 rai of farmland, 34,542 livestock and 1,759 fish farms. The cost of the damage has yet to be estimated.

Here is a round-up of the situation in some of the provinces:

Phatthalung

Provincial official Amnuay Chanthornrat said 120 villages were inundated with water up to 40cm deep in some areas.

He said 60,000 relief bags had been given to villagers and 10,000 tonnes of dried grass distributed to the owners of “starving” cows. Local authorities were trying to assess the damage as quickly as possible, he said.

Satun

Kochem Minhem, deputy director of the Satun educational zone, said the rains had eased. It was up to school directors whether or not classes should open, he said, but at least six schools would remain closed due to flood damage.

Nakhon Si Thammarat

The districts of Pak Phanang, Chian Yai, Hua Sai and Chu-uat remain submerged with an average water level of one metre. Villages such as Noen Thammang and Hua Talae in Chu-Uat district were still cut off and could only be reached in flat-bottom boats. Water was draining slowly due to high tides and more downpours were possible.

Local disaster relief chief Wichit Maneelok said 270,873 people were affected. He said 16 people had been killed in recent weeks and 2,074 roads damaged. Nearly 200,000 rai of farmland and 4,882 shrimp farms were damaged, while 200,000 farm animals were affected. The total cost of the damage could reach Bt150 million for the province, he said.

Trang

The province is recovering after days of heavy rain and floods. Water is still up to two metres in some areas.

Many houses on the banks of the Trang River remain submerged, especially in Kantang district, which sits on the main waterway to the Andaman Sea and suffers strong floodwater currents.

Flat-bottom boats remain the only way to get to many parts of Muang Trang and Kantang districts.

Yala

The rains had stopped in Muang Yala municipality and residents started to clean up, but surrounding areas such as Yaha district were still underwater.

Local authorities were using flat-bottom boats and helicopters to supply villagers with food, fresh water and medicine. They said 300,000 people had been affected by the floods and the Yala-Pattani road remained impassable in parts.

The body of Saudoa Kama, 45, who was swept away on Saturday, was recovered yesterday.

Surat Thani

Waves of up to four metres slammed into a fishing village in Don Sak district, destroying six houses and partly damaging 30 others.

A 2km stretch of beach road and a tapwater pipeline were also damaged.

No-one was injured but about 500 Chinese-Thai villagers had to be evacuated.

The authorities later built temporary wave barriers with sandbags and stones.

Sawat Damprapai, 74, a resident whose house was destroyed, said the villagers were able to evacuate on time because they followed the weather reports.

“The waves were higher than they have been for a decade. They swept away the home where we have lived for generations,” he said.

“The waves and strong winds also shattered the 500-metre-long pier in our village.”

[Ah_Hia]

Originally Posted by DeKuip

Bro need help to clean ur apartment pls let me know.

Thanks for the offer.....kekeke....got all the ktv puyings(my neighbours) to help me liao.....kekekeke

[pirate]

I have tried reading most of the post going back several months but still have many questions than answers.Since this tread devoted to newbies (like me) with questions, here goes:
Background: I just got back from Thailand (BKK , Chiang Mai and Pattaya). Mostly MPs, some go-gos in Bkk, CM-almost no MPs except 1-2 ok places and not much bar scene), Pattaya-mostly bar scene for ang mos-I was only asian at all the bars I visited.

I tried reading some of the post on Hatyai but still confused at the differences between gal pick up places in BKK, Pattaya and Hatyai. Also not sure about prices.
Some people who posted on Hatyai would suggest that the prices were actually cheaper in Hatyai then in CM or In Pattaya -(avg: bar fine=200-300bt and gals LT=1000-1500), these were the prices I often paid there.
But post suggest Hatyai a cheaper cheonging destination?But most post for LT in Hatyai were well over 2-3k.

Also, since I am only familar with beer bars, and go-go joints and MPs--these were the only places other than discos where pick up gals were concentrated in BKK, Pattaya.
Can U post explanation of what are Barber shops, Farms ,KTV etc. as I have not experience these in BKK or Pattaya. and what are current prices for these establishments.(bar fine and recommended LT rates).
Plan to visit Hatyai next year and need to get started on my education on this place.
Thanks
pirate

[Prolink]

wa kao...

u got such luck?

Originally Posted by Ah_Hia

Thanks for the offer.....kekeke....got all the ktv puyings(my neighbours) to help me liao.....kekekeke

[KatoeyLover69]

The Thai Government is now appealing for the following donations from the public :-

* Cash
* Medical supplies
* Clothings
* Blankets
* Milk powder & infants' milk powder
* Biscuits
* Mineral water
* Rice
* Dried noodles (instant) & mee hoon (dried)
* Canned food - sardines, pork, beef, kambing (goat)
* Cooking oil
* Flour

For those who are kind enough or sympathetic to the vistims of the Flood Disaster, kindly contact the Thai Embassy in Singapore and Malaysia as to how you can help the flood victims.

Kindly read the report from The Nation dated Tuesday 20 December 2005 :-

SOUTHERN FLOODS: Governors told to gather donations

Interior Ministry calls for consumer goods, money to assist residents of eight affected provinces

The Interior Ministry ordered provincial governors yesterday to collect cash and donations from people across the country to help 400,000 residents caught in the flood-ravaged South.

Interior Minister ACM Kongsak Wantana inspected the situation in Songkhla’s Hat Yai district and instructed provincial governors to collect consumer goods and money to assist flood victims in eight provinces.

Tonight, the ministry will host a TV programme on Channel 11 called “Ruam Namjai Sub Namta Chaotai” (Gathering Goodwill to Shed Southern Tears) from 10pm to midnight to raise funds for affected villagers.

The ministry will also set up a centre to gather donations for flood victims in front of the Provincial Administration Department.

It will also invite governors from 17 neighbouring provinces to donate money through the Channel 11 show.

Her Majesty the Queen yesterday presented flood-affected people in Narathiwat’s Sungai Padi and Sukhirin districts with 3,000 aid packages. The Fourth Region Army transferred the aid packages by helicopter because the areas were cut off by floods.

Meanwhile, the Public Health Ministry dispatched mobile medical teams to affected areas and provided 20,000 sets of medical supplies, while 100,000 medical supply sets will be reserved for later.

Public Health Minister Pinij Charusombat will visit the South later this week to support health officials.

The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration yesterday set up donation centres at City Hall near the Giant Swing and at district offices so that residents can donate dried food, fresh water and consumer goods for the flood-affected residents of the South.

BMA governor Apirak Kosayodhin said donations can be made through Krung Thai Bank (Khao San Road branch) in a savings account named “Muang Luang Chuayleau Phuprasobpai”, number 027-44329-4. They can call (02) 224 2958 or (02) 221 2141-69, extension 1424, for more information.

Apirak said the city has already sent two truckloads of dried food and five flat-bottom boats to the disaster relief centre in Songkhla province.

[KatoeyLover69]

Report from Bangkok Post dated Tuesday 20 December 2005 :-

Tourism to pick up as floodwater drains :New Year event will go ahead as planned

By SUKANYA JITPLEECHEEP CHATRUDEE THEPARAT VICHAYANT BOONCHOTE

Tourism and retail operators in the South may only be slightly affected by the floods that hit downtown Hat Yai at the weekend, but the long-term outlook remains doubtful as businesses rely heavily on tourists from Malaysia and Singapore.

The floods from the heavy downpours that have hit eight provinces in the South over the last two weeks have resulted in 11 deaths and caused several billion baht worth of damage to property. In Hat Yai, the bill could reach 500 million baht.

Hat Yai is still being overlooked by Thai tourists because of the violence in the southernmost provinces. The average occupancy rate at popular hotels, for example, has declined to 30-50%, compared to at least 70% before the southern unrest.

``Not only the impact of floods but also other economic worries will definitely cause Hat Yai's GDP to shrink this year,'' said Netr Chantrasmi, managing director of the local retailer Diana Department Store Group Plc.

Although the floodwaters began draining away yesterday morning, areas on the outskirts of the town were still under water, he said.

``Flood victims will use money to repair houses as a priority, and that will significantly reduce spending on gifts and entertainment in the coming holidays,'' Mr Netr said.

Major hotels reported cancellations for rooms booked for the week, but hoteliers remained optimistic that the situation would improve at the weekend.

According to a market survey of four hotels _ JB Hat Yai, Lee Garden, Sakura and Central Sukhontha Hotel _ Malaysian and Singaporean customers in particular had cancelled between two and 10 rooms per hotel. Some seminar groups have also cancelled.

Suthep Keasangh, director of the Tourism Authority of Thailand in the southern region, said the agency has informed TAT offices in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore as well as tour operators that the situation was back to the normal, especially in downtown Hat Yai.

He said the TAT and private businesses would stage a special New Year event, Night Paradise Hat Yai Countdown 2006, from Dec 29-31, to attract visitors.

The celebrations are expected to draw more than 700,000 local and Malaysian tourists to the South, to help reverse falling visitor numbers.

Somchart Pimthanapoonporn, president of the Hat Yai-Songkhla Hotel Business Association, said that no one had cancelled hotel reservations for next week.

``We're planning to organise parties and events to celebrate Christmas and New Year's Eve next week,'' he said, pinning his hope on no more rain over the next couple of days.

Vichit Na Ranong, chairman of the Tourism Council of Thailand, said that overall, the floods had had a minor effect on tourism in the South, but that repairs to transport facilities and tourist attractions should be completed before next week.

Because of several negative factors this year, Mr Vichit said Thailand would fall short of its original target of 13.38 million foreign tourists. The number of arrivals would probably reach 11.8 million, equal to the total in 2004.

The flood is the latest thorn in the sides of people in the South, according to Mr Netr. Not only do people have less income from rubber plantations and are shouldering higher fuel costs, but they have also now lost assets in the floods.

``The Bank of Thailand should offer a lower interest rate for large corporations to prevent them from the possible laying off of workers,'' he said. He added that several hotels have started laying off workers and many entertainment venues and restaurants in the South had shut down.

[TD0620G]

Originally Posted by pirate

I have tried reading most of the post going back several months but still have many questions than answers.Since this tread devoted to newbies (like me) with questions, here goes:
Background: I just got back from Thailand (BKK , Chiang Mai and Pattaya). Mostly MPs, some go-gos in Bkk, CM-almost no MPs except 1-2 ok places and not much bar scene), Pattaya-mostly bar scene for ang mos-I was only asian at all the bars I visited.

I tried reading some of the post on Hatyai but still confused at the differences between gal pick up places in BKK, Pattaya and Hatyai. Also not sure about prices.
Some people who posted on Hatyai would suggest that the prices were actually cheaper in Hatyai then in CM or In Pattaya -(avg: bar fine=200-300bt and gals LT=1000-1500), these were the prices I often paid there.
But post suggest Hatyai a cheaper cheonging destination?But most post for LT in Hatyai were well over 2-3k.

Also, since I am only familar with beer bars, and go-go joints and MPs--these were the only places other than discos where pick up gals were concentrated in BKK, Pattaya.
Can U post explanation of what are Barber shops, Farms ,KTV etc. as I have not experience these in BKK or Pattaya. and what are current prices for these establishments.(bar fine and recommended LT rates).
Plan to visit Hatyai next year and need to get started on my education on this place.
Thanks
pirate

There's no go-go bar in Hadyai instead there are many KTV farms which are actually WL joints where you book the girls for LT (overnight). 95% of the farms charge 1500THB as the standard rate while some at 2000THB for their top picks. You only pay more if an agent or a tuk tuk driver brings you there since they are paid 500THB commission for each girl.

[fat29]

Bro, my recent experience has been B$2,500. Even ordinary looking chicks also cost this amount.

No tutuk driver involved. The working ladies told me that their standard rate is B$2,500 and they get about B$1,300 with the rest going to the OKT. Maybe, I go to the more expensive farms.

Those working ladies in the farm who are in their 30s charge B$2,000 and after much negotiation, their prices can come down to B$1,800.

[TD0620G]

If it's in See Kim Yong or Chanivitte then u've been overcharged but if it's more high class joints like Kiss Lounge then it's ok. More frequent and senior samsters can even get it lowered to 1300thb but 1500thb is the standard for the past few years, maybe it's your first time there. Other reasons for price increase is during peak season ie. chinese new year or christmas/new year where hotels are fully booked, the girls also charge extra 500THB. On our last visit, even 1 day before Hari Raya/Deepavali the rates are the same. Only on the actual date the prices went up by 500THB and hotels were charged peak prices.

General guide (daily prices except for 1st day of CNY and major holidays) ie. if hotel prices are charged peak prices so will the girls, so use hotel prices as your guide.

700-2000THB
1. Whole of See Kim Yong
2. Whole of Channivite
3. 95% of KTV farms in Hadyai
4. Traditional Massage girls overnight (bar fine starts from 700THB if book through massage parlour), if negotiate personally no bar fine. Not all massage girls can be booked.
5. Paragon disco FLs (be careful of your valuables if you book them, they don't go through any farms)
6. Saloon parlour girls

2000-3500THB
1. Kiss Lounge - open after 7pm, price inclusive of bar fine. After 1am no bar fine.
2. Hadyai Palace sexy dancers - approx 2000THB onwards depending on which girl
3. Other non-WLs which are dancers/singers in popular establishments

[KLKOOL]

Originally Posted by fat29

Bro, my recent experience has been B$2,500. Even ordinary looking chicks also cost this amount.

No tutuk driver involved. The working ladies told me that their standard rate is B$2,500 and they get about B$1,300 with the rest going to the OKT. Maybe, I go to the more expensive farms.

Those working ladies in the farm who are in their 30s charge B$2,000 and after much negotiation, their prices can come down to B$1,800.

Bro... the going rate for Farms is 1500 baht - 1800 baht. This was the price quoted to me during my last "virgin" trip to Hadyai for Hari Raya / Deepavali. For some cheongster who wanna pay 1000- 1200 baht, can get the MILF kind (about early 30's). Although my experience is limited, I know this for a fact... This is for Channivate and See Kim Yong. For about 2000 baht to 2500 baht u already got DAMN GOOD QUALITY ONE. Only during heavy festive periods, when they have not enough gers to go around, then the rates go up... but even then, if you got lobang, u still can get grs at the normal rate. Cheers!

[tirak99]

Originally Posted by fat29

Bro, my recent experience has been B$2,500. Even ordinary looking chicks also cost this amount.

No tutuk driver involved. The working ladies told me that their standard rate is B$2,500 and they get about B$1,300 with the rest going to the OKT. Maybe, I go to the more expensive farms.

Those working ladies in the farm who are in their 30s charge B$2,000 and after much negotiation, their prices can come down to B$1,800.

Bro, the price is only 1500B only. There is not such thing as more expensive farms. 1500B is standard in hdy. 2K is only applicable to those young gers work less than 3-6 mths (17-18yrs old). Then I think It's worth paying such price.

The gers will get the ratio of 60%. 40% go to farm. It's all depend whether the gers got any debt with the farm.