told off by ML

[strikeback44]

Originally Posted by limpeh18

Agreed. But then again we need to have the upper hand in nego. Thus usually if they wan the money, i usually give but i will want this n that. U dun wan then dun get lor. But must be firm. If they say no means no go. Be prepared to leave.

if 30min they ask for GQ.....you reject how ? prepare to leave after you have paid for 1 hour ?

depend on what kind of shop you went . That time i went to a fuck shop place.got 40 min option but i took 60min and the recep blur why i take so long.

go in 10min ask for gq.....i act blur and said i just want massage. she gave me option and price. if action top cannot take off like wtf....

the whole session she just piano on my back reluctantly and complaining telling me this is a fuck joint, wasting her time.... worst experience ever. i have avoided fuckshop ever since

[Voorhees]

Like the bros said...

few years back, I ever roam one ML on first visit and kana ticked off... ask me to lie back and relax... when cumming ...grab her butt cheek and she was wearing jeans. she didn't reject because motive want to make me cum.

repeated visits and buying her tea break and lunch.... in the end also give me full package for $100 including massage fee.

the killer was when I pull her pants down and eat her... she was shocked but enjoyed it... that was the turning point for all good things that were to come. now she married some old business man....

[lam1673]

Just wonder whether any brother had aborted the special because the ML was giving you a bad time and walk off without paying or paid a token $10-$20.

[tangerinesex]

Originally Posted by lam1673

Just wonder whether any brother had aborted the special because the ML was giving you a bad time and walk off without paying or paid a token $10-$20.

I have, quite a few times actually. The latest incident occurred when the CB refused to let me touch her while giving me a hj. I was visibly pissed, and told her to stop her shit. I was fuming but kept silent while putting back on my clothes. When I reached for my wallet to tip her, she told me to just leave. I told her to fuck off and have never returned since. Not the best way to get a freebie, and I had half a mind to report her but i eventually told myself to just write it off as a bad experience. As for the other times, I shouted down the ML, and told her she was lucky that I was even tipping her for bad massage.

As a rule of thumb, I think all paying customers are entitled to market expectations if they know the rules of the game. Every ML who offers extras must surely be well versed with these rules, how the game is played, and how much people in the trade are charging. Most MLs are compliant, even though service standards might vary from person to person. So for instance, if for $50, most women would allow you to touch them, then the act of roaming would become part of the game. Whether it takes place outside the clothes, or inside, it's up to individual negotiation between buyer and seller, but an unwritten contract, based on market practice, exists. So if you want to play the game, but refuse to oblige the client with what's generally accepted as the norm, then willing buyer is entitled to tell you to fuck off. The service provider has failed in this case to recognise that her livelihood is no longer within her purview, but is defined by the larger forces of demand and supply. She will probably learn the hard way when she starts losing customers, that she will have to conform or die

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by Rider458

Totally agreed bro,recently just got my worst massage experience... book a FL Malay ML Bexxx.. ask me to go to this place. Went up saw many others ML mostly PRC. Went into the room ask me for up front payment 120/1hr + 1hj. Keep pushing me to go for 150 package but I don't want. Piano massage for 15min ask me turn around and start to hand pump my small bro....I was like what the fuxk? In my heart already buay song but tell myself here to relax. I started to find some feeling by autoroam her. She keep MOVING away her body... I was so turn off and angry that I stood up and told her that you can stop. Put on my clothes and go off
This is my worst massage experience... sad

U got pay upfront $120 lst anot??

[ShittyAss]

Originally Posted by tangerinesex

I have, quite a few times actually. The latest incident occurred when the CB refused to let me touch her while giving me a hj. I was visibly pissed, and told her to stop her shit. I was fuming but kept silent while putting back on my clothes. When I reached for my wallet to tip her, she told me to just leave. I told her to fuck off and have never returned since. Not the best way to get a freebie, and I had half a mind to report her but i eventually told myself to just write it off as a bad experience. As for the other times, I shouted down the ML, and told her she was lucky that I was even tipping her for bad massage.

As a rule of thumb, I think all paying customers are entitled to market expectations if they know the rules of the game. Every ML who offers extras must surely be well versed with these rules, how the game is played, and how much people in the trade are charging. Most MLs are compliant, even though service standards might vary from person to person. So for instance, if for $50, most women would allow you to touch them, then the act of roaming would become part of the game. Whether it takes place outside the clothes, or inside, it's up to individual negotiation between buyer and seller, but an unwritten contract, based on market practice, exists. So if you want to play the game, but refuse to oblige the client with what's generally accepted as the norm, then willing buyer is entitled to tell you to fuck off. The service provider has failed in this case to recognise that her livelihood is no longer within her purview, but is defined by the larger forces of demand and supply. She will probably learn the hard way when she starts losing customers, that she will have to conform or die

These days those so called clean spa.. Lx spa.. imperixx spa...most bitches asking $80- $100 just to HJ and let in touch ....

Those $88 p-shit is worst...

Definetly bitches wana earn $... but getting more such bitches recently...
We are not dumb dick head... although once in a while will be stupid dick head also...

[baotohk]

Originally Posted by r.fowler

visit her a month later, she should be seasoned already

lol....she wanted more and TS didn't get it. No wonder she tears up

[bignehneh]

That is why I never paid in advance. I am shocked there are still so many carrot heads when times are bad. Haha!

Usually I will walk away if they want to collect money upfront for whatever fuck reason..if you are in the service industry, then provide good service. I don't give a fuck how pretty are they, how huge their tits are and how tight are their pussies

Want to collect $, I may walk off or whank myself.

[cavemanng]

I love those innocents ones who say can touch boobs, touch pussies etc.... 2 things usually to convince them. 1 is cash. The others is your cock... Some of them are hungry for sex so a sizeable and thick cock always make them wet....

Of course must be gentle and nice. Don't immediately go dig her CB. Massage around that area and slowly rub her etc

[frostbite99]

Originally Posted by ShittyAss

These days those so called clean spa.. Lx spa.. imperixx spa...most bitches asking $80- $100 just to HJ and let in touch ....

Those $88 p-shit is worst...

Definetly bitches wana earn $... but getting more such bitches recently...
We are not dumb dick head... although once in a while will be stupid dick head also...

88 p-shit is really the worst thing ever really no diff 1, in the end also need to add on extras

[owen10]

some ladies still have ‘principles’
Even tho they do HJ
Some dun allow touching
Some allow minimum touching of body,
Not even boobs n of cos not cb
Agree it was a real put off if everywhere cannot touch

[oddeye82]

My thinking is if they wan to earn extra by providing HJ, at least must give us touch boobs lar. Under the shirt also shiok, maybe just unhook for easier access. If we want to touch down there, must test water 1st. Don’t force them, maybe go more times will have more services.

[danilov]

Originally Posted by cavemanng

I love those innocents ones who say can touch boobs, touch pussies etc.... 2 things usually to convince them. 1 is cash. The others is your cock... Some of them are hungry for sex so a sizeable and thick cock always make them wet....

Of course must be gentle and nice. Don't immediately go dig her CB. Massage around that area and slowly rub her etc

Money makes the world go round. And also how strict is the management against these shenanigans. The ML are worried about covering up in case they got caught, so the less extreme the stunt, the easier to hide.

If hungry for sex they can easily get it from various boyfriend with bigger dick so this is hardly a factor IMHO. If listen to them talk, every customer has a big dick! Saying anything else, she will quickly have an ex-customer

[danilov]

Originally Posted by owen10

some ladies still have ‘principles’
Even tho they do HJ
Some dun allow touching
Some allow minimum touching of body,
Not even boobs n of cos not cb
Agree it was a real put off if everywhere cannot touch

Some are PDMM with hubby or kids so they draw boundary.

[tangerinesex]

Originally Posted by danilov

Some are PDMM with hubby or kids so they draw boundary.

I find these cases to be most pathetic yet very sad. You want to make a decent living yet you need to steal on the side. The equivalent is a white collar worker who needs to massage his company’s account and under declare taxes so he can enjoy some kick backs. If you draw boundaries, then certain things like even a simple hj are a no-no. You can’t beat temptation, sooner or later your CB will just cave in