Shocking Revelations from a 'Decent' Thai Singer

[ah_phah]

Originally Posted by KLKOOL

This is degenerating into another Tirak thread le. hehehehe. Still getting zapped by some people living in denial

Everyone wants to think they are special and not an ATM is suppose ...

aiya, wan coem out play gals, then must prepare to get burn. same thing ma, i go casino, if i never buy chip to put on table, where got chanec to win? but then when my bet never open, banker chiongkong my chip, i also canot complain say tio pian, then demand the banker return my chip ma.

very simpel la, we all sinagpor ppl like complain everything. if lose, kpkb say tio pian, say the 4d number jump, say never buy system roll, say until heart pain balls pain, lose alot of $. but then, if kena top prize, we keep quiet laugh to the bank only, maybe some will also complain say, if know will strike will put bigger bet.

[borom]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

If the people who gave birth to them did not explain/educate them, in which capacity do you think you will be to explain/educate these values/priorities?
SC

I think for a person like bro Siam Cutey with his vast knowledge on Thai matters (as seen from his many informative postings on Tirak/ thai baht/ I BARR/Apartment in Bangkok/Thai langauge kindergarten class/Golden Mile complex DISCO/Thailand marriage ect2)the situation must have been really bad to make him so angry.

Suteerak1099 has offered an alternative view that in some " .... circumstances/situations, they cant choose...there's ....those who ....arent authentic thais... some of which mixed decendants/2nd or 3rd generation "refugees" from neighboring lands.

I was just wondering if Siamcutey can reveal the background of the Thai singer involved,it will give us a better understanding e.g,from which province,occupation of parents,educational level of the singer and whether she is a single mother with young child to support ect2. Perhaps people from certain places,occupational background ,education and family problems are more prone to certain things.

This has got to be the most pathetic thread of all time in SBF.

I have never posted anything before but this thread really moved me to register to state my concern about the degeneration of this forum.

Still remember many years back i always enjoy logging in to read the FRs on GL and KTVs by senior bros like Ah Dez and Cuntking and gang. Those were interesting posts and insightful info about the cheonging scene.

Nowadays most threads end up in flame and zapping wars and this thread has got to take the cake..... a senior cheongster coming online to gossip, whine and moan about the doings and private life of a thai singer and after that, "humbly" retreat and stand on his moral high ground talking about karma and stuff.

Ever heard of the saying "Huan Chang Wu Zhen Qing" ? Loosely translated as entertainment scene, no real love. Does the threadstarter really imagine he can find real relationship in such places? Or he simply got upset when he found out he was not so "Special and Exclusive" after all?

The singer is here to make a living after all...not to find a boyfriend. If u give out false leads to them, be prepared they are going to ask for money. If threadstarter would like to complain about their manners when they refuse to give, what about the manners of forummers here, gossiping about their private lives. Would any of us like the singers or dancers go online and gossip about the private lives of cheongsters too?

Please note the key words here are "private lives", not cheonging. This thread would probably serve more purpose in Sam's other delphi forum as it doesn't really relate to sharing info about KTVs and pubs.

As usual, such threads are also accompanied by fellow big time losers aka cyber heroes talking about throwing eggs at the singer. Talk in cyberspace is empty....i seriously believe that u do not have the guts to do so.

Unfortunately most forummers are now degenerating into species worse than the ah sohs at the markets.

Those who talk so friendly about treating the singers as friends, yet they treat u like carrots, please do not say that free sex is not your objective. They are here to work, not to find bfs. Can't take the heat? Get out of the oven.

Really wish to see the old timers like Ah Dez, Cuntking and Kaixin return to make their contributions to bring this forum back to where it once was.

P.S. Don't bother about zapping me....Points bother u but it doesn't bother me. Won't be posting anything after this.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

If the people who gave birth to them did not explain/educate them, in which capacity do you think you will be to explain/educate these values/priorities? No point wasting time/effort on them. Why not look at people with the right values/priorities, rather than on those without these values and still have to inculcate these values into their numbskull? ANd most often than not, who can say they have succeeded in inculcating these values/priorities in these group of people?

SC

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

well, if the people that gave birth to them or fostered them didnt explain/educate them, they wouldnt even bother with values of having to support/feed them - the so called "filial piety". in reality, it doesnt necessarily mean that those who belong to the category of "ladies of the night" dont have morals & ethics either.

its easy to say that they have a choice, whether they want to or not, but i've also shared the other side of the coin before.... circumstances/situations, they cant choose.

in all your yrs of experiences with the thai ladies, surely u've come across some that never really had a choice. then of course, we musnt forget that there's a majority of those who plough the trade, who arent authentic thais... some of which mixed decendants/2nd or 3rd generation "refugees" from neighboring lands.

anyway, ultimately no right or wrong; u've your views on 1 side of the coin, while i've views on the other side of the coin.... i leave it to the readers to discern for themselves...
peace!

I am quoting my whole post and your post to ask you something once again.

1. in which capacity do you think you will be to explain/educate these values/priorities?

2. Why not look at people with the right values/priorities, rather than on those without these values and still have to inculcate these values into their numbskull?

3. And most often than not, who can say they have succeeded in inculcating these values/priorities in these group of people?

If cannot answer to the point for these 3 questions, please skip this posting.

Thank you hor.

SC

[84_Junichinda]

Siamcutey so free writing his own sadfuck stories here. Can see his clones out in full force to show support

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...Why not look at people with the right values/priorities, rather than on those without these values and still have to inculcate these values into their numbskull? 3. And most often than not, who can say they have succeeded in inculcating these values/priorities in these group of people?

Tend to gravitate towards SC's reasoning. Why bother, getting into psycho-analysing -whys, hows of such human behaviour? It takes all sorts to make this world. We deserve the company we keep.

Originally Posted by borom

..was just wondering if Siamcutey can reveal the background of the Thai singer involved,it will give us a better understanding e.g,from which province,occupation of parents,educational level of the singer and whether she is a single mother with young child to support ect2. Perhaps people from certain places,occupational background ,education and family problems are more prone to certain things.

No. We risk getting off tangent here, from what's this thread is all about: revelations either for info or bed time reading (just like some tabloid stuff, who can deny not least interested?). Even if TS is bothered to, what can it tell us.. justify individual's behaviour?

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Originally Posted by borom

I was just wondering if Siamcutey can reveal the background of the Thai singer involved,it will give us a better understanding e.g,from which province,occupation of parents,educational level of the singer and whether she is a single mother with young child to support ect2. Perhaps people from certain places,occupational background ,education and family problems are more prone to certain things.

You might as well ask suteerak1099 to reveal the background of his tirak to give us a better understanding of his situation.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by borom

I was just wondering if Siamcutey can reveal the background of the Thai singer involved,it will give us a better understanding e.g,from which province,occupation of parents,educational level of the singer and whether she is a single mother with young child to support ect2. Perhaps people from certain places,occupational background ,education and family problems are more prone to certain things.

'B' is working as a thai singer in province of Chacheongsao. Her pay is 20000baht a month. Her mum and sister stay and work in Pak Liew not far from Chacheongsao. Both Mum and sister own a noodle stall each and have 3 helpers helping(for thai standards, its very gd biz to have 3 helpers helping out)

'B' said her pay is not enough and if she does not have enough money, she will go back and ask from her sister and mum.

In my mind, I am thinking, if I earn 10K, I should spend within 10K. If I earn 20K, I spend within it. No point earning 20K and spending >20K a month. So I never bother telling her what is right. Because telling them wouldn't change their mindset. I looked at her manicure, her hair lengthening(which cost 4000baht) and she said she bought a new motorcycle.

To put it simply, if want to find a girl with not so much $$$ problems, find a rich one.

SC

[JWNY]

Originally Posted by yinyang

No. We risk getting off tangent here, from what's this thread is all about: revelations either for info or bed time reading (just like some tabloid stuff, who can deny not least interested?). Even if TS is bothered to, what can it tell us.. justify individual's behaviour?

I agree with bro YY, this thread is specifically about "A" Thai singer...not every other Thai singer. Those who read and feel intrigued by the thread, contribute positively with your own part or up SC's points to encourage him further. There is no need to find out who this singer is, it is not relevant - this is not a case study.

For those that read Stephan Leather's "Private Dancer" ~ don't tell me every girl out there reacts like "Joy", the pratagonist of that book title?

JWNY

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by ah_phah

aiya, wan coem out play gals, then must prepare to get burn. same thing ma, i go casino, if i never buy chip to put on table, where got chanec to win? but then when my bet never open, banker chiongkong my chip, i also canot complain say tio pian, then demand the banker return my chip ma.

very simpel la, we all sinagpor ppl like complain everything. if lose, kpkb say tio pian, say the 4d number jump, say never buy system roll, say until heart pain balls pain, lose alot of $. but then, if kena top prize, we keep quiet laugh to the bank only, maybe some will also complain say, if know will strike will put bigger bet.

Please don't put so many spelling mistakes ON PURPOSE

Use your Rep Pt 196 nick to post instead.

SC

[deuter]

oei.. wherez the continuation of the story... waitin till neck long already... 555..

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

1. in which capacity do you think you will be to explain/educate these values/priorities?

in which capacity? my own capacity of cos... u may disagree with me, but i find senseless giving/splurging to be digging one's own grave.

if there's no explanation/ education along with the giving, to the benefactor/receipient... the proceeds received is a given & not hard-earned.

reminder: it doesnt mean that 1 has to relent on giving full sum. ie: she ask for THB10k, u're not obligated to fulfill full sum or more. give a fraction of the quoted sum, or better still, don't give at all....

Originally Posted by siamcutey

2. Why not look at people with the right values/priorities, rather than on those without these values and still have to inculcate these values into their numbskull?

people with right values, of cos, better still... no need to waste saliva & effort. but having said that, it doesnt mean that those with warped/improper values deserve to be condemned for life.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

3. And most often than not, who can say they have succeeded in inculcating these values/priorities in these group of people?

for that matter, u'll just have to peel your eyes wider & see further. for everyone that finds comfort & gratification in doing what she does best now to bring home the bacon... there's another who's hung up her stockings & garter/ redeemed (when she finds the right man), leading the life of a commoner once more.

if all the time u're only looking at those who plough the trade, then its obvious that u only witness what goes on in the trade.

what about those that finally settled down (regardless in home soil/ foreign lands), bear children, raise kids, run/manage family businesses...etc? u wont get to see them in the scene/joints anymore, all the more, none will ever whisper a gasp about their less glorious past, especially to strangers.

[phallusman]

Just gone thru' this long thread with "n" pages.

Politicians lie
Lawyers lie
Salesmen lie
Working ladies ? ? ?

I do not expect these WL to have high integrity when dealing with customers or even their fellow WL. This is part and parcel of their learning process to be in this trade and telling lies is simply SOP to them. I have more or less accepted this hard fact that all WLs lie.

WL asking for money and more money - well, they open their mouth to ask and there are Roberts out there leh. To some, money easy come, easy go leh, so they can throw money on the WL readily.

My money is hard earned money. Me is super-giam type. Just give a little tip when the WL deserves. Or buy a little something for them. No big bucks la.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by yinyang

Tend to gravitate towards SC's reasoning. Why bother, getting into psycho-analysing -whys, hows of such human behaviour? It takes all sorts to make this world. We deserve the company we keep

bro, he certainly has his points.... sharing the details of his bad experience with 1 particular singer, serves as good headsup warning for us all. which also brings back memories of the good old 'woes of a tirak' thread... illustrating the perils of being involved with WL/FL in particular.

but as we all know, the bottomline is not to be petty. if 1 decides to give/splurge/pamper/shower the girl with all the pleasures he can afford, then so be it. and if it so happens that he's cultivated the habit in the girl, to continue recieving wonders/gifts for no apparent reason... then its perhaps his own fault to blame for giving the girl a false impression that his finances run as deep as the abyss.

however, in this isolated case of the singer asking for monetary benefits, as if the protagonist owes it to her...? then perhaps there's a missing link in his narration somewhere? (but i believe we all prefer to give TS the benefit of doubt - so we dont get into another messy flaming situation)

myself having encountered different sorts of "ladies of the night", by far have not encountered 1 as such that demands. maybe i'm fortunate enough to be spared from 1 as such. though i'm sure we all agree there's be occassional phone calls out of the blue... she chats up in the sweetest voice possible... and shortly after "pii, kor dtang nid noi dai mai ja..."

that'd be the breakpoint whether; 1 can refrain from the sweet smelling venus fly trap.... or perhaps the chivalrous nature within gets the better of us, n we fly right into it.

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

...as if the protagonist owes it to her...? then perhaps there's a missing link in his narration somewhere? (but i believe we all prefer to give TS the benefit of doubt - so we dont get into another messy flaming situation)..

Quite blatant and presumptious of her asking for the dough outright (with no payback in kind?). But then I'm not privy to insight why. And the cheek to get her knickers crossed when turned down?

..... she chats up in the sweetest voice possible... and shortly after "pii, kor dtang nid noi dai mai ja..."
that'd be the breakpoint whether; 1 can refrain from the sweet smelling venus fly trap.... or perhaps the chivalrous nature within gets the better of us, n we fly right into it.

Men are suckers for soft sell..